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I have personally generated way more deflection with 12.4 Revo than 12.9 which contradicts Dave's video. The reason is because the 12.9 is a stiffer shaft

Whatever you guys are smoking I want some 🤣

Still waiting Dave

Exactly, nobody practices it because every rail and table is different. You can practice at home for hours and it doesn't matter. On the other hand cloth speed is generally more consistent across all tables in a pool hall and pool in general

Try playing 8 ball with the black set 🤣 My brain couldn't tell the 10 was a stripe

Lol...good to know there's some common sense on this playground

If something has skill wouldn't you see a bunch of pros close to freezing the cue ball on the lag often? Because of the rail and distance, a typical lag is fairly random. No doubt you'd see more ties with one table length because you're increasing skill and reducing luck. This is a good thing...

Because reasons listed, nobody wants to sit there and practice the rail speed before every match. If the lag is a skill shot then make it more skillful and less luck. If you were a pro would you want to have to practice the lag?

But rarely comes up in any other game

Yes

Remember how long it took us to accept rack your own... sometimes there's a better way...not saying this will happen or even want it to happen but that is the point of discussion

Think about it. I had 2 revos... One with a flexible shaft and one very stiff. Same diameter. Flexible one had drastically more deflection. Does anyone think that this dramatic difference is caused by a minor difference in end mass alone? The flexibility has a factor, potentially a large one...

Nobody properly understands how shaft flexibility or lack of it affects deflection. We're where golf was 20 years ago. If you're going to do human testing at least use more than 1 human 🤣 not to mention basic sample size issues... we're not in high school science fair are we

Do we have test data from a robot with carbon fiber shafts?

Yes a robot is required for accurate testing. Dr Dave isn't even close to pro and even a pro isn't consistent

I posted my experience with 11.8 revos... Relating to this thread. Did you read it?

Why is it bad? Because it's different?

Also the longer it rolls the more it's affected

You admit flex affects deflection but nobody understands how much. Posting old articles doesn't prove anything, nor does making one video or having a phd. We need carbon fiber shafts of various flexibility and a robot. Testing anything with a human shooting is suspect and definitely not science

Good point, but you can always repeat a lag. It's possible you get lots of ties and its not practical. It could be more meaningful or fun if it was close more often. Especially at the pro level and you could have a ref decide. A lot of pros are just going through the motion and don't practice...