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Hey there Mark, Please let us know who has committed to the event. Thanks.

My opinion is that there is a discernible amount of the polymer left after your routine. If you have a few minutes and are curious... I'd suggest a blind test. Clean the balls as you usually do. Then clean one ball with isopropyl alcohol. Take that ball and one from the ball cleaner...

Take a look at the description of the Meguiar's product. It's a polymer and it's designed to left on the surface of whatever you've treated. Diamond may have recommended it; but it seems to be pretty clearly outside the rules of the game, which doesn't allow residue on the balls. I be...

My starting point is the sense that Dragon doesn't do a very good job, based on my attendance at four of their 14.1 championships. I've only attended these events, no others, and I'm curious about other promoters and the way they do business. It's an interesting market place and I'm curious...

Well, you said it not me.... Videos...? I think we've looped around. Isn't this where the thread started? There is no video of the finals! I'm not clear to me if you're saying Dragon does a good job or get a grip and lower your expectations for tournament pool production.

What I was trying to convey>>> to compare the difference in leaderships of "World 14.1" vs "US Open 14.1" I guess promoters is more accurate. I've just trademarked: Intergalactic 14.1 Interstellar 14.1 Outer space 14.1 Don't get any ideas... George Lucas. just sayin'

That sounds like my routine too. If you make it to Steinway next year, I'll buy you a beer... you can drink half and then we'll discuss. Before that... I'm looking forward to the new spring tournament in Windsor Locks. I'm interested to see what this all looks like under different leadership.

You are correct. Forgive me. It's so dark in my cave.... the glass looks, you know, half empty. ;-] I've had the good fortune to attend the summer gathering of the tribe at Steinway. I enjoy it and am happy for the opportunity to see the game played at such a high level.

I believe I played on a nine foot Sport King [more than once] back in the late 60's. Jay Spielberg would know and would be a good start to finding a set. 603 765 6160

the elephant in the room Dragon Promotions business model: Keep customers in the dark and guessing. Do not listen to suggestions or complaints. Be perplexed or defensive when your customer base expresses annoyance or says "no more". Further the decline of billiards in the United States.

The right price might be $0.00. Unless you're in love... move on>>> It takes deep pockets to make those small pocket big pockets.

did you say ball cleaning?... slowly I turned... step by step, inch by inch> http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=410410 http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=410834&highlight=cleaning+balls

devil's in the details I'd be careful on some of the details of these LEDs that have been suggested. A color temperature of 6000K is extremely cool... blueish in color. In my opinion, not a pleasing light. I'd suggest something much warmer... about 2800K. A 6000K light source with tournament...

Jillian's, Boston Not quite at the level of vomit and blood, but Jillian's clearly couldn't care less about their equipment. Dead rails, loose pockets, thread bare cloth.... neither tables nor balls have been cleaned in years... yea, wash your hands regularly! The chalk basket at the counter...

Thanks for your input Gumbo. I'll be interested to hear more about and see your ball cleaner in action. I'll be sticking to my bucket cleaner, but trying to improve my process. Here's to a neutral playing field!

Hi Mr P. Thanks for the links. I'm falling down this rabbit hole.....againnnnnnnn Most of this is looking familiar. Have I tested ... No. I can hear it now. Shut up and test. ... but I'll continue. Diamond looks foolish.... I remember this MacG quick detailer. It's another company's...

I had considered the Aramith ball cleaner the holy grail... oh well....? now what? Thanks for finding the MSDS sheet Mr Pockets. It is curious that Saluc, the premier manufacturer of balls and the sponsor supplying their name and balls to just about all tournaments, sells a product that is...

the rules It seems that using wax is introducing a variable. Not a good idea. WPA Tournament Table & Equipment Specifications (Effective November 2001 ) 16. Balls and Ball Rack All balls must be composed of cast phenolic resin plastic and measure 2 ¼ (+.005) inches [5.715 cm (+ .127 mm)] in...

Please let us know what your source is on the color match.... Where did you read that?

Ours is a much slower death... perhaps more painful. Jillian's in Boston, has a 8 ball league. We play there, as it's the only game in town. The equipment is in sad shape, the tables and balls are difficult to abide.... haven't been cleaned in year and the cloth is threadbare as well. I have...