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    Pool Table Identity help- William Dethloff

    Actually, it was more like automobiles in those days - multiple factories in every city some never getting more than a few prototypes out, some lasting for a few decades. Some did buy their drive train from a bigger operation. Lycoming and Continental got their start in those days supplying a...
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    Cue Building Cost to Start?

    I'm going to be a little bit rude: Are you already the kind of guy who already makes things? Just can't help not making things? It takes a certain amount of that. In every trade, there are people who dream of being a high end maker. Especially in the eyes of other people. But they don't...
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    Anyone use epoxy for rings?

    You get it, 100% ! I was not trying to be rude or special, more like cheer leading/encouraging. Like the guy you helped out at the panel shop - so many people look at a drill bit and go "what?? me grind that???" Just go do it. :)
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    Pool Table Identity help- William Dethloff

    Here's one in 1911 catalog with the recurve/Ogee shape.
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    Anyone use epoxy for rings?

    That was my immediate thought as well. When people started gussying up :) cues with plastics, they all seemed to use some bakelite because of all the cool effects it could once be had in. First nice cue someone gave me in the 70's was finished with it. Part of the reason he gave it to me was...
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    Anyone use epoxy for rings?

    What kind of drill bits are you using? Have you tried regrinding the points & stoning the lands perfectly flat at the tip so the initial cut is a scraping cut? I find the angle is not all that critical, but the flats are. (by hand) individually spin the point to grind in one smooth sweep...
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    Pool Table Identity help- William Dethloff

    Nice catch that i failed to note! That sure seems to clinch it in my mind that Dethloff made or subcontracted it. Skirts are the narrow pieces that cover the sides below the rails. It is almost certain that the frame side outer panels are "5-ply" (or possibly 4 ply) meaning a poplar core...
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    Full splice technique

    Whoa! That is a cool concept! OTOH, i never noticed a problem just flipping the board, myself? Sometimes it is worth setting a pre- stop, so that i kind of precut, which lets wood with tension in it relax, then reset the stop and make the "real" cut. That's why you see the thin birdsmouth...
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    Looking for value of what I think is a Brunswick ebony merry window?

    Is the butt an old fatty? If so, you could have someone splice it under the wrap to get it back out to your preferred length, and have a nice "solid" ebony cue. Put a modern shaft on it if you want a player. In those days they did not know (or maybe did not care?) that heavy fronts on a shaft...
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    Looking for some sub rail angle advice

    Lessee- I'm a machinist too, check. can do the math, check. Can even about 1/2 read french.... :) But i don't know squat about setting a table up. That's to say that it has been useful and interesting from this seat and i appreciate both OP puzzle & especially what RKC and others have posted...
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    Box Case Demand?

    link?
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    Pool Table Identity help- William Dethloff

    RobM - I like your analysis and think it makes sense. An important material clue: All the BBC catalog references state in print, or show examples with "Golden Oak" or mahogany as the 2 feature wood options. In those days, and perhaps especially in BBC literature, "Golden Oak" meant...
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    George IV 1783-1830 collects billiards and travels to USA

    I kind of get what you are alluding to: You have a PhD and want to say it but can't quite get past the humble brag. Post your real name and year and school for your dissertation and i'll look it up. In the humanities? Or is it like one of my kid brothers commented about a mutual friend who...
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    Want-to-see Current/Modern Fancy Sneakies

    Thank you, rimfire. smt
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    What tips, ferrules and stain belong on 100-year-old house cues?

    Agree, no stain! However, nitro lacquers were not available commercially before 1925, and realistically not much used on woodwork until the late 1930's. Even then, not common until late 40's and 50's. Most cues before ww2 would have had shellac. Mixed from flake. The stuff in cans works, sort...
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    Want-to-see Current/Modern Fancy Sneakies

    Well if it's open season and anything can be a sneaky, here are a couple of my plain FS 6 pointers. :)
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    George IV 1783-1830 collects billiards and travels to USA

    I had faith in you, justnum, believed the title hype, even believed if i just persevered a little longer, it would be "a fun read, a Dragoon Colonel from the 18th century playing pool." But i was a fool, after a couple hours, it's just an old fashion form of clickbait with one lousy receipt &...
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    George IV 1783-1830 collects billiards and travels to USA

    So one bill & receipt listing the payment to a person who imported cuesticks, quantity not listed, aprox $720 worth in today's money? Lot of work to winkle that one out. Can you direct link about "travels to USA?" Thank you.
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    Snakewood cracks ?

    For exterior woodwork (NOT pool cues) Penofin is pretty good. Clear exterior grade. They also make some wood-tone colors like Cedar, but as you note, any oil soak finish already tends to darken the wood. Pay attention to the instructions about putting it on, letting it soak, etc, etc, but...
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    Abe Rich Titilst Conversion

    since i study cues from a (sometimes) maker perspective..... were Titleist cue points length often that mis-matched? Looks like 1/2" if not more? Or is it an optical illusion in the photos? If as appears, a modern maker could never get away with that. smt
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