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Joe gives some info on how to cut the balls thin on his dvd that works. Me, I use Geno's Perfect Aim and (NOOO! Not Again!) my dominant eye in the right place. :eek: Best, Mike

Sorry to hear that, Larry. Beat the bug before the holidays get here. :) You made a valid point as far as I'm concerned. No offense was taken. I was wondering if Joe would pop in here and give us a few more pointers. His dvds are chocked full of gems. I also own the Third Eye Stroke Trainer...

Larry, I joined Joe's website and found quite a bit of info on this system. He's got a lot of workouts for the system and a 2 part dvd to go along with it. The dvd has a lot of Joe's insight for using the different angles. This thread is just the basics. Until I read his literature and watched...

Yeah, they aim at the contact point and compensate for the under cut. Since many players use the contact point method consciously and probably subconsciously, I think it's interesting that they (me) had to learn Joe's method. If I was probably already doing it subconsciously, why didn't it...

The ten angles are a bi product of the numbers. I use the regular balls because I've learned the locations of the numbers and can connect the dots. I look at the object ball contact point to the pocket, figure out which number it is and look for the number to match on the cue ball. If it's a 6...

If you use the number designations with the balls oriented facing each other, you'll be sitting on or next to one of the 0-9 angles. You don't need the numbered balls to see the contact points. Zero, nine and 4.5 are easy to pick out. Put a ball on the long rail. That's the 0 line. The front of...

Hey Rick, In the link, Bob Jewett talked about the consistent placement of the numbered cue ball and numbered object ball. With the balls set up on the table in this way, the angles to the pocket change as the balls move, but the numbers always face the same direction. The 9s face the side...

PJ's diagrams are accurate. Joe's angles are "identified", meaning if you have an object ball sitting on the angle line, there is a corresponding number to send it to the pocket. He didn't pick out random lines of aim to each pocket. Here's a link that explains it a little better...

Probably the most interesting part of this system when you first start using it is the idea that no matter where on the angle line the object ball sits, you can pocket it by using the corresponding number on the cue ball. For instance, put the cue ball at the end of the table away from the...

Nice work on the diagrams. :thumbup: The 7 and 8 cuts can be pocketed using 8 and 9 respectively on the thinner cuts. The 0 cuts will go even if the ball is a couple of inches off of the rail by reducing the speed and letting throw grab the ball. One angle is missing, the 4.5 angle. It runs...

OK. He has a 2 dvd set that has a demo for the aiming workout with a scoring sheet. I became a member on his website a while back and the dvds are available for viewing. From my experience the last few weeks using the system, the shot lines or something very close to the shot lines come up...

Does the book use the specific 0-9 angles to each corner pocket? Best, Mike

Has anybody bought the numbered balls and learned the system besides the couple of posters that responded? I'd like to compare notes and discuss exceptions to the rules on certain shot alignments because certain angles use different 0-9 placement. I'm sure there're other anomalies yet to be...

I had to put in some work to learn to use it, but it was quite an eye opener for me as far as applying the CP2CP method of aiming. Think book and its cover. The CP2CP part is just how you apply the method, not how you learn to aim with it. :smile: Best, Mike

Here's a video of Shane shooting several shots for the camera. Listen to his comments about using left english. https://youtu.be/_kL9ena6j6M?t=1715 Best, Mike

Very good info! Those diagrams are well done, as usual. Have you gotten into Joe Tucker's aiming system at all? It's a CP2CP system, as you demonstrate, with an upgrade. :smile: Best, Mike

I couldn't quite get the hang of locating the numbers on the front of the cue ball. I even turned the cue ball around so the numbers would face me and I could estimate where they were at on the front. A clear cue ball would be the answer. It was definitely trial and error! I was spending too...

Joe's system gives you the cue ball contact point. My head position is lined up for a fractional aiming point. The overlaps are consistent between cue ball and object ball. After a couple of weeks, I make less adjustment every day. The first day it literally took me close to an hour to gauge...

I take these disks and balance them on top of the balls. They actually sit right on the object ball and cue ball easily. I can see the corresponding numbers between the balls and stroke on that line. After the stroke, like a magician pulling a table cloth out from under a dinner place setting...

Yes, the angle tells you what numbers to use for the correct CP2CP aiming. There will be tweener shots. I still can't make the basic angles yet, so I'll let you know if I get good enough to use them. :D Best, Mike