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  1. pete lafond

    Object ball "Skid" - real or just a BS excuse?

    Hollywood billiards is a nice room. Anyway, I think THEONE made one of the most valid statements along with a key point by Cornerman. It is the oils and moisture that causes the skid and the chalk is only a secondary culprit. I would imagine intentionally putting chalk on a ball for a trick...
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    Top 10 Most Knowledgable Posters

    Do not forget Danny Harriman, Cardiac Kid and of course Poolshark52, Each one of the players know quite a bit as well as are well over the 100 club in 14.1 (edited for key type errors)
  3. pete lafond

    Same Old Story..........

    Think of it this way, the rolls average out so your positioning yourself for one hell of a great tournament when they all go your way. It does stink though, and makes it a little tougher to mentally get into the game.
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    Object ball "Skid" - real or just a BS excuse?

    Interesting on the soft rubber pockets, never considered that. The leather pockets(conditioner used) and new felt are heavier with oils, so I can understand that one. It would be interesting to find out if used balls are smoother than new ones. It would make sense that they would be because they...
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    Object ball "Skid" - real or just a BS excuse?

    Well stated. If you were to look at any of the pictures I had posted, you will see that I showed what really happens to the OB as opposed to what some others were saying. They used to say the OB "Twists" or "Turns" when side English is applied. Kind of like how people spin a CB between their...
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    Object ball "Skid" - real or just a BS excuse?

    Yes, this is another way. Great point.
  7. pete lafond

    Object ball "Skid" - real or just a BS excuse?

    Sorry, this topic is about "skid" and my response was with within the context of this thread. I was addressing slide that occurs on contact. With respect to the english transfer, I would be happy to discuss with you at any time on a different thread or otherwise. I just do not want to steal...
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    Object ball "Skid" - real or just a BS excuse?

    As you have read my many posts here, I have not discounted any post with the exception of dry chalk as most likely not to be the cause of skid. With respect to causes for skids (different from slide), I have stated that there are many. Skid is cause when more than one CB / OB contact is made...
  9. pete lafond

    Object ball "Skid" - real or just a BS excuse?

    No need to, but thanks for the reminder.
  10. pete lafond

    Object ball "Skid" - real or just a BS excuse?

    Good post. Seems like you explained it well here. I do believe that there is an ideal speed that skid is more likely to occur, or at least the effects are heightened. Kind of like when some hits a cb low to draw it, but hit it to hard and they end up with a stun shot. Someone else has a more...
  11. pete lafond

    Vendors Attitude

    That's a great compliment to Joe and it is well deserved. You just know he works hard at figuring the best ways for players to really understand the game and simplifies methods. The one gadget that is so simple yet makes so much sense is the third eye. Someone had asked me about what I thought...
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    Object ball "Skid" - real or just a BS excuse?

    Thanks, I completely forgot the slate aspect. We have one table in the room that a slate has lifted (This occurs often and I'm not sure why). So many times do players miss the shot, even simple ones when it is on the edge. If this is the only table available, when I play, I play position to...
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    Object ball "Skid" - real or just a BS excuse?

    you can test this by using high english and place chalk in front of the ob on the felt. you should hear a double click from two contacts made. (Skid is a > 1 hit on the OB by the CB) (Edit to add) Also everytime the CB climbs the OB (yes this happens and can bee seen from the balls vibration as...
  14. pete lafond

    MASTERS Chalk---Green vs. Blue

    I'm going to have to start buying my own instead of relying on the pool rooms. Thanks for the advice on green.
  15. pete lafond

    MASTERS Chalk---Green vs. Blue

    Thanks for the info Dave. This now explains why everyone in the pool room is experiencing a higher amount of miscues.
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    Crazest thing you have seen happen in a pool hall

    As I was walking out of a bar about 12 years ago and I saw a guy holding a girls head by her hair with one hand and slapping her around with the other. I grabbed the guys arm and at that moment the girl looks directly at me and says "Mind your own business". Go figure..
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    Object ball "Skid" - real or just a BS excuse?

    Well after paying attention to what has been said, I do believe that it is unlikely that a dry chalk residues would cause skidding because there is not enough friction. I also think that it is entirely possible that humidity, polish on the balls and the oil in the felt are the main cause. Add...
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    Object ball "Skid" - real or just a BS excuse?

    Using polishes on billiard balls work well in low humidity if it is not to warm, they make them look nice. I removed the polish from the balls after getting lots of skids and the skids greatly diminished. If you were to slowly rub 2 balls together pressing a little, you can normally feel the...
  19. pete lafond

    Object ball "Skid" - real or just a BS excuse?

    On theones behalf the oils in the fabric, just like humidity and polishers, can cause chalk and dirt to stack the OB/CB and hold tight to the fabric. The chalk on the OB/CB do not have top be at contact points to skid, rather they can be at the bottom of the ball when contact is made, raising...
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    Object ball "Skid" - real or just a BS excuse?

    Another note, I would imagine (guessing here) that if the balls were heavier there would be fewer skids.
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