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    APA Rules Question - Intentional Forfeit

    This is what I meant when I said "without the insults". The dictionary thing came from YOUR first response to me, in the same paragraph where you used the word "ignorant". I don't believe you were calling me ignorant, but you were calling SOMEONE ignorant, so it's insulting to someone (even...
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    APA Rules Question - Intentional Forfeit

    Oh, watching for those things is also part of my job. That's just not the part my posts in this thread were about. When someone is dumping, I (1) see it on the score sheets and in they database, and (2) hear about it. Like I said, I'm not naive. There are cheaters in my league, there are...
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    APA Rules Question - Intentional Forfeit

    Here you go, from dictionary.com: manipulation noun 1. the act of manipulating. 2. the state or fact of being manipulated. 3. skillful or artful management. manipulate verb (used with object), manipulated, manipulating. 1. to manage or influence skillfully, especially in an unfair manner: to...
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    APA Rules Question - Intentional Forfeit

    I'll take a shot at that. How about "As is often the case, I fail to see the logic in a statement made by an APA LO"? Just because you don't understand the logic, it doesn't necessarily mean there is none, or that the person making the statement is incapable of logical thinking or expression...
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    APA Rules Question - Intentional Forfeit

    I'll be happy to continue this discussion for as long as you like, but only if you can do so without the insults. The insults really drag down what could be quite an interesting conversation.
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    APA Rules Question - Intentional Forfeit

    Anything done with the goal of affecting or managing a player's skill level is manipulation. The only thing you can do is not help them improve. If you think your player is better than their number, and do things like not play them to keep them from demonstrating that ability, it is...
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    Classless

    Maybe it's like that, but leaving NO tip can be interpreted by the server as cheapness or forgetfulness. If you get crappy service, you still leave a tip, but make it small to send the right message. To complete the analogy, what I would do is shake his hand while whispering in his ear what I...
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    A League That Encourages Improvement

    Most people will improve without lessons or instructional material, because most people have the motor skills and mental capacity to learn the game. With that, it's just a matter of experience and/or practice to improve, to a point. As with anything, the more you improve the harder it becomes...
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    Tony Chohan Interview - "APA takes in 26mm, pays out 1mm"

    I'm an ok player. There's a guy at the local pool hall who gives me the 7-out regularly, which is too much. I can't play him even, and I like winning his money. Why would I want to play better? Why wouldn't I just continue to play just well enough to keep the 7-out? What incentive is...
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    League Tournament Question.

    The difference in names on the score sheet has to do with the software we use. The regular league software puts nicknames on the score sheet (Jim vs James, or whatever is in the player's "Nickname" field), but the tournament software uses what's in the "First Name" field, usually the player's...
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    League pool

    Not good enough for what? Who are you to say what's good enough and what isn't? It must be good enough for that APA franchise nearby to become very large. It started at zero at some point in the past, and it probably wasn't the only league around. My guess is that it still isn't the only...
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    League pool

    What if it's purpose is providing a structure for ENTERTAINMENT? Perfect example right here. You can't acknowledge the entertainment factor in a pool league. Or you refuse to acknowledge it because it would render your attacks pointless. In most APA franchises, that high level breakdown is...
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    Getting rid of handicap in the league

    Eight games an hour, each game potentially played by a different pair of players? I think you're closer to four hours than to 2.5.
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    I'm quitting APA😞..Lost the local APA Championship last night

    Anybody else see anything strange in this statement? Some of the biggest complainers are the people who think it should be easy. It's supposed to be hard. How can you be too high and still win at all, much less get to the top 16 out of hundreds of teams in Vegas?
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    APA Racking Question

    Both methods, rack your own and loser racks, have their downsides. The "loser racks" method suffers from 1) slug racks, 2) excessive delays between games because the breaker needs everything perfect, and 3) breaker using the re-rack requests as a shark maneuver. "Rack your own" suffers from...
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    just got back from apa nationals.

    This didn't happen, at least not as you describe. I've been to the last twenty-some national championships and in none of the captains meetings did anyone say "the shot clock will be enforced and the foul is ball in hand." What is said is "slow play will not be tolerated. If your opponent is...
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    handicaps from different regions

    I think he means "set a minimum" so you can't go down. It should be pretty obvious why some players should not be allowed to go down in skill level. One example might be a "decent shortstop" who never plays anyone except pro-level 7's...
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    just got back from apa nationals.

    The text quoted above is on page 50 of the current manual (just for clarification), which is in the 8-Ball rules section. Since you were playing 9-Ball, the stalemate instructions in the last paragraph on page 67 apply. Namely, points, innings, and defensive shots stand, all remaining points...
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    how to get to vegas through APA

    There is quite a bit of information missing in this guy's original reply. First and foremost, the players didn't have to pay for the flights and didn't book them. Second, depending on when you book, it's approximately $100/person less expensive to fly from Baltimore to Vegas than from Roanoke...
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    how to get to vegas through APA

    Yep, and that's why your league is the size it is, after what, 20 years? Two different target markets - maybe APA just isn't for some of the players in your target market. The APA league right next to you is way more popular than that, I saw recently where they are in the top 25 APA leagues...
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