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I have been around pro pool for close to 30 years ... I can tell you stories of watching Archer hustling guys for $20k a set when he was teenager. I know very well that SVB has not won a WPA-sanctioned WC. I am not delusional. Here is that 2007 match. It is actually quite a good match of...

I wholeheartedly agree. It would have been good for pool to see SVB here. And it would have been good to have had all of these Asians at the US Open.

buddha162, that is the contention here ... Shane won an event in 2007 called the World 10-ball Championship but it was not sanctioned by the WPA.

In 1994 there were 2 different events called World Championship. In 2007, there were 2 different events called World Championship. In each year, the WPA only recognized 1. So, I guess if we are saying that Shane won zero, we are also saying that Earl only won 4. If we say Earl won 5, then...

No argument. Other than it raises questions. If Earl is 4 or 5, then Shane is 0 or 1.

How many did Strickland win? Here is what is on record: 1990 WPA World Pool Championship 1990 WPA World Nine-Ball Championship 1991 WPA World Nine-Ball Championship 1994 PBT World Nine-Ball Championship 2002 WPA World Nine-Ball Championship That is 5 titles. Do we count 1994? According to...

Yea .. the 2007 event that had a bunch of shortstops and APA 5s in it ... Pagulayan, Bustamante, Orcollo, Kiamco, Hohmann, Archer, Corteza. Not to be confused with that stellar field at the 2008 and 2009 WPA World Championships.

And do you believe that the WPA was seen as the true governing body of pool in 2007 to 2009? Here is what the pros thought of the WPA in 2008 ... take specific note of what Shane, Robles, and others had to say at that time ...

Plain and simple. In 2014, Feijen is the World Champion. Plain and simple. Maybe you can give us a plain and simple explanation of the state of the world championships from 2007 to 2009 for our simple minds. Shane won the 2007 Predator World 10-ball Championships, but people say he has not...

I know very well what it was and saw the finals. But it was not a called "World tournament" per your post. It was called a "World Championship" at a time when the WPA was on shaky ground and did not even produce a world championship in 2008 and 2009. People lambaste SVB fans for considering...

SakuJack, You make a lot of sense. But this is confusing, "and no amount of moving the goalposts by fans of his will change that." Do you think it is the fans moving the goalposts? It is confusing to fans what a world championship is because right now it is a WPA designation. In 2008 and...

I did ... I am just trying to articulate why I think SVB fans are getting bent out of shape.

Indeed, you are correct about pool. And in the spirit of progressing the sport (which it needs), what world standard do you think sets a better precedent to follow Darts or Formula1?

I think that is the heart of the argument. Today World Champion = Having won the world championship. And there are those of you that like that. I dislike it. I think it should be as it is in other sports ... just like it is here ...

I think the defensive sentiment here goes far beyond this thread. Not too long ago, there was a thread about Shane not having world titles and there was a lot of negative commentary (from same people on this thread) about him not winning overseas. Have a look ...

What you are saying is right. However, I don't think the weighting of the points is right. The WC is worth 10,000 points while the US Open is worth 6600, the World Pool Masters is worth zero, and the Derby is worth zero (I do agree there is plenty of blame to go around why those events are not...

I think the thing I struggle with understanding is the way pool (in this case the WPA) defines a world champion. If you look at other top tier sports ... golf, tennis, and Formula 1 (something I know you Europeans certainly can respect), the world champion is not defined by an event. The world...

Your comment, "As for the WPM, while a prestigious event, it is a small 16 man invitational. Ranking points events are always big events, usually with an open format.". This is a subjective decision made by the WPA. This is not true in other world class sports. Take into account tennis' ATP...

I will tell you what is a double standard. The fact that an organization started and run out of Europe called the WPA proclaims itself as the governing body of pool when we all know the core problem with pool is there is no true unified body. Yet, the WPA holds claim in their eyes (and yours)...

I thought Paul Newman's acting in The Color of Money was great. I thought the pool in The Hustler was better ... I think some of the shots were actually done by Mosconi.