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I didn't say other factors don't contribute to deflection, but those other factors aren't relevant in this context. Let me explain. Say a combination of deflection inducing variables (like those you mentioned) produces x amount of deflection. The post quoted says that if you reduce the...

Perhaps subjective is not the proper word, I don't doubt the truth of your statements, I'm just looking for hard numbers. I think I found some which will simplify our low deflection calculations. I found the post I mentioned above, here's its content: "This is important numbers for the...

This thread discusses low deflection ferrule for carbon shaft. Looks like hydex and Tomahawk are good candidates for a low deflection ferrule. J2pac points out "Hydex/Isoplast is plenty strong enough for use as a ferrule. It is not far from Tomahawk in terms of tensile strength, and modulus...

FYI, DZ said my request was the first time he'd heard of hydex. Also indicated hydex was so much lighter than Tomahawk that he questioned its strength, durability and resistance to chalk (he meant less dense, not lighter, IMO), and said he might consider adding hydex if he got a sample and...

I asked him to include that and abs - he said no to abs, and said he'd consider hydex. Did you ask him also, Joey?

Who cares if its melted on? Are you saying cast ABS has different qualities than rod ABS? That would be useful info, , not what you said. What, no answer?

Great post sonerai!!!! And you've provided a key data point, the density of elforyn, that will help unravel DZ's list of ferrule materials. I didn't find elforyn's density. So now we have a few published/reliable(?) density figures of materials that appear on DZ's list, and we can more...

This post just provokes questions in my mind. I've indicated some of those questions. " Yup, but they're not going on my cues as collars and caps. Neither is hydex." What is wrong with ABS and Hydex? "Don't like scratching them to make finish stick." What material do you use, adhesion to...

This thread is pretty crazy and I'm sorry I'm responsible for some of the craziness. The thread was searching for a low deflection ferrule for a carbon shaft. That ferrule was to protrude about 1/4 inch beyond the shaft, and extend a short distance into the shaft (and not contribute to a tink...

You're a big mouth, Dave. You obviously have money to buy first class equipment to build cues and you think that makes you a big shot, god-like. You're not a big shot, Dave. Rather, you impress me as insecure and struggling to prove you're not a wimp. And, you think because you spent a lot of...

Great post, Joey! As usual few words, and little benefit to the forum. Did you ever think about contacting DZ and ascertaining where Hydex 202 fits in his low deflection materials list? Seems that would be useful information if you wish to tout Hydex in a thread dealing with low deflection...

Thanks for the reply, Joey. Your post seems to have a little bit of information in it. Let me point out: amongst other generalities you say Hydex 202 is harder than ABS. That may be, but hardness is generally described using numbers such as shore hardness, Moh's hardness etc. Can you direct...

The question was: How do you assess the machinability, scratch resistance, and finish adhesion of ABS? Your answer is "I don't like them." Do you think anyone profited from that (non)answer? Here's where we are: ABS might be a great low deflection ferule material, based on it's density. I...

Let me just say I like ABS for reasons I stated above, and avoid more pissing matches. You were quick in another thread to identify the butt cap on a Mali cue as being ABS so you're not ignorant about its appropriateness for use in cues. Also you have cue building experience. How do you...

That is a mistake on my part. At that time I thought DZ's chart depicted measurements of density, and I posted what the density of ABS is. But, DZ's chart is not a density chart, it is a like a specific-gravity chart with a value of 1 assigned to maple. ABS is absent in DZ's chart but I...

After this morning's flak session, I went to my shop and repeated the informal test discussed above. Today I hammered on Tomahawk and ABS, only. The test results are different. Today I used threaded joint collars of similar size, made of black ABS and white Tomahawk (I have no more black)...

I haven't called anyone's integrity into question. Quite the opposite: j2pak words "I HIGHLY doubt that Tomahawk "shattered" bud. . . . you will have to forgive me if I am just a bit more than skeptical with regards to your claim." DD, your claim I called j2's integrity into question surprises...

I respect your input but, believe me, you don't need to freeze Tomahawk in nitrogen to shatter it. I'm talking about a cylindrical section, not a rod section. You probably have some Tomahawk, you can, in a matter of moments, do what I did, rather than surmise.

I agree with everything you've said here. Let me point out one thing - the reason I did this "test" was to see if ABS might work as a substitute for Tomahawk. I liked Tomahawk. Again, the test results surprised me - ABS seemed relatively indestructable. I can tell I'm treading on thin ice...

j2pak your words "I HIGHLY doubt that Tomahawk "shattered" bud. . . . you will have to forgive me if I am just a bit more than skeptical with regards to your claim." speak loudly. Based on your doubt of my sincerity, I encouraged you to conduct the same test, and offered to supply you with the...