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Yeah, but the topic wasn't that "who is the most consistent player of the decade". Mika and Efren outshine Ralf, what is comes to winning big time. Ralf is worker, Mika is winner, Efren is Magician. All time Efren wins of course, this Decade, with narrow margin, Mika wins. Too many Majors...

Yeah, and Ralf didn't win a single Euro Tour in about five years, before that. And yeah, Mikas 60 000$ from the WTBC is not listed there ;)

That was loose Brunswick GC III btw. ;) And Efren in his prime won everybody in 8-Ball, with large margin, and you should now that.

That was just to be objective and to point out the ignorance in the statement. If you go back 2-3 years, Mika wasn't anywhere near as he's now. (Shane, Ronnie and Dennis was there, with the ever consistent Ralf of course.) If you go to 2000-2003, he was, just the younger and less experienced...

Yeah, nobody denied Ralf's consistency. Mika is just bigger winner than him, that's why he deserves the title, IMHO. Efren's wins are bit above Ralf also. Ralf lost those Major finals (two to Mika btw :wink:). Mika lost the US.Open once, then later won it back-to-back. How big is that? Who else...

You are correct. There are lots and lots of points, and trust me, I have counted them. Efren's wins, as Ralf's wins. Like I said, IPT was bit controversial stuff, how players got involved, the system, the equipment etc. WPA 9-Ball and US.Open are bigger, what it comes to prestigiousness...

add up all the cashes for 40K or more over the last decade that Ralf and Mika had and then get back to me. Ralf < Mika. you can call me also. lol! Ralf seems to have two, and neither of them is from a win. 2nd in 9-B WC 40000$, and 5th in IPT Vegas 50000$. Mika has SEVEN, five of them wins...

Heh, but to win in Euro Tour, gives you 7500$. To win in IPT Reno gave Efren 500 000$, in Orlando 200 000$, in 9-Ball Japan 165000$. Wins in Europe are not in the same cathegory. Unfortunately. And btw, there was about 5 years period, Ralf didn't win a single Euro Tour, in this Decade.

Because, the Majors, and the WINS in them, counts so much. Ralf is the most consistent and dedicated sure, maybe won more tournaments than Mika, but Mika won so many more Majors, that he's the man. See upper post for reasoning. Sorry Roy :cool:

Where are you getting this "last 2-3 years"? Out from ingorance? Mika has been inform, and at the same time Best in the World, last 13 months, that's bit over a year. Before that, he was out of Top 10 for about 5 years. But, in the early years of this Decade, he was in Top 5 then again...

Good point from the start billbOK! Why list players in the poll who doesn't have any reasonable reason to be there? After Mika, Efren and Souquet, the next to deserve the place is Thorsten Hohmann, then Pagulayan, and then Alcano. And even those three, not necessary, maybe worth mentioning...

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Huh, has there one single roll gotten in Europes way?

So because of you I (/we) cannot enjoy Mosconi Cup live stream??? (just kidding ;)

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Yeah, five excellent individuals doesn't necessarily make excellent team. I have been saying the same since yesterday, Europe is lacking color, and for example Tony Drago would have brought it. Chamat maybe also, Sandor Tot probably. Let's hope they can pull something out for tomorrow. Doesn't...

Yeah, but the difference exactly is that there is this smile, which europeans so often are lacking. Being cold blooded is good, being stale or negative not. Taiwanese players performance seems very emotionless, but they are still relaxed and they are enjoying in a calm way. They are not...

Yeah, it wasn't. Well I guess all is relative, you can imagine Bustamante running out that rack in any situation, but if you stop imagining, and check some facts, much more easier balls were missed by much more seasoned players there.

I do agree. I'm european, and I noticed a big difference on the approach and the facial exposure, body language and everything, between the two teams. Europe needs to cheer up and catch some gear, show some Spirit. Otherwise they'll be sinking.. But! If they'll be able to do this, americans...