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    Gray UK Open 9 Ball Cloth or Green Snooker Cloth ?

    I'm a huge fan of Powder Blue, it looks good in any light. Prefer it to Grey, but prefer Grey to Tournament Blue. Ultimate Pool yes are using a "napped" cloth but it is pretty fast - I think napped is on the way out.
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    Calling Dr. Dave! SVB "Foul" @ UK Open

    Nah, never. If you can't be sure you give it to the shooter. If it looks like a foul, you both call foul. Play people for money who understand what playing for money means. Can be $1 can be $1000 same same. Play honest. Honest is the least difficult way to get through life.
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    Calling Dr. Dave! SVB "Foul" @ UK Open

    I think it's a healthy thing to discuss. And to be fair I think that most are discussing it with positive intentions.
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    Gray UK Open 9 Ball Cloth or Green Snooker Cloth ?

    I think 40 years ago the cloth would have been marketed as "Shark Gray" or "Shark Grey" depending on the territory, 20 years ago it would have been a universal "Shark Gray" but now it's a worldwide "Shark Grey" possibly because of Matchroom but I'm not sure. It doesn't matter a hoot - the...
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    Gray UK Open 9 Ball Cloth or Green Snooker Cloth ?

    Grey cloth has been used in English pool for a few years now, and it works. Ironically, English pool was finally moving from green to blue but then pretty quickly discovered grey. Matchroom followed suit.
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    Gray UK Open 9 Ball Cloth or Green Snooker Cloth ?

    Nowt to do with fairness. Pool already broke with tradition by moving from green to blue - so it's a pretty easy decision to move to grey. Grey works. It works in daylight, it works in bars in low light and it works on TV. It's better than green or blue. Give snooker time. The cloths will get...
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    Calling Dr. Dave! SVB "Foul" @ UK Open

    Yes that's how I see it too. The simplest models/explanations are usually the best but they are never the most accurate.
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    Calling Dr. Dave! SVB "Foul" @ UK Open

    There certainly appears to be a possibility of a simultaneous hit and then the ball remaining in contact with the rail as the rail compresses before the balls hits the 3 again. If I understand the rules correctly, this would be a foul. It's only a possibility though so in the absence of a future...
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    Calling Dr. Dave! SVB "Foul" @ UK Open

    Correct. However, physics in practice is not simple (basic). There are lots of additional effects that can influence the trajectory. Some of these will probably make very little difference in practice but will be very hard to model. Hence my point that relying on the basic physics probably...
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    Calling Dr. Dave! SVB "Foul" @ UK Open

    I don't see any need for such a childish reaction from Matchroom. Referees make mistakes in all sports but are still respected. Suspending them every few weeks because they make one mistake during a 60 or 90 minute game would make the major sports a laughing stock. This referee is excellent...
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    Justin Bergman

    Too many continents 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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    I watched more pool lately than in many years!

    I've been watching more televised pool. I disagree about winner breaks and think that alternate breaks would get the sport a bigger audience, but if the audience grows at all then I am happy with the product - and it is very good. It's still actually relatively low budget production but it's...
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    Jayson Shaw's 714 becomes 669?

    I'm pretty sure I already said that I now realise the convention for high run attempts is a continuous rack break rather than an opening rack break. This is the kind of thing that needs to be agreed upon for "ratification" purposes. Either way (start from a continuous rack break or start mid...
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    Jayson Shaw's 714 becomes 669?

    Strange post. Say "lol what?" and then appear to agree 100%. I could be missing something, please clarify.
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    Jayson Shaw's 714 becomes 669?

    And therefore can't be "ratified" because it was not under match conditions and therefore the foul can't be overlooked after the fact because a referee missed it.
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    Jayson Shaw's 714 becomes 669?

    How would I know? By "run" I'm guessing you mean high or record run? Somebody, somewhere. Whoever has the most balls in a row pocketed according to 14.1 rules.
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    Jayson Shaw's 714 becomes 669?

    Well if there are no agreed rules/conventions then the only legitimate high run would be in matchplay from any starting shot and in an "exhibition" from an opening break with 15 balls racked. EDIT: it's these kind if things that make pool (organisationally) laughable. Think about how ridiculous...
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    Jayson Shaw's 714 becomes 669?

    No dispute whatsoever. My point is that if high run attempts start with a continuous rack break rather than the standard opening break, then they could start from any situation. But they don't and if Shaw had known he had fouled (and I don't know if he did - it appears to be a contentious...
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    Jayson Shaw's 714 becomes 669?

    I don't agree. If the agreed way to start "high run attempts" is from a continuous rack break then the high run should only count if it is made from this break. In matchplay it can start from any shot.
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    Jayson Shaw's 714 becomes 669?

    I think something is lost in translation here. The point being made, I think, is that on the opening break of 14.1, you can break anyway you like even though anything other than a defensive break is a bad idea. For high run attempts a more open break would be desirable. However, it appears that...
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