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You were right before... another thread, another time.

It's simple. The mechanics of a stable elbow from transition to delivery is fantastic. Attempting to drive that stroke with elvow flexors in isolation is terrible. I never expressed issue with the mechanics. Just the awful force production advice. Take, "leave stroking to the...

Naming any single muscle hurts you. Probably the biggest drawback of a great mechanical idea like a fixed elbow is that by hardcore adhering to it, players lock themselves out of the possibility for an effortless reliable stroke and just hone in on relying solely on elbow flexors. If they...

Even if the tip works for them it may not for u. There's a great quote on this in golf.... "99% of the tips in golf magazine are legit. The problem is that 70% of them ptobably don't apply to you" There aren't quite as many different types of strokes in pool as in golf but if a beginner asks...

Tho the idea of triceps back, biceps forward is bad and hurts players. Still elbow good. Triceps/biceps bad.

I'm not trying to discredit that. What I"m saying is that those all time great players with bobbing elbows, have all time great strokes. People who get married to the idea of a fixed elbow have been discreditting them by claiming their strokes are flawed and they've overcome those flaws...

Not likely if the intention is to isolate elbow flexors for reasons beat to death at this point. As far as visible differenves between our strokes, I don't know, I've never seen yours. Mine flows like water. Gonna guess yours doesn't :p.

It doesn't. You can have perfectly executed strokes without utilizing that particular move. That said, when players simply try to move as efficiently as they can and have the most effortless feel to their stroke, that littke bit of movement comes into play...often completely subconsciously...

Nothing else is needed....for a mediocre, at best, stroke with low cue power and poor speed control. Good news is, that even if you are working around an oversimplified model of your stroke, your subconscious mind will save you from yourself and you will still utilize more than just that one...

I think the biggest factor is that the top Poles work together. They travel together, practice together, and help one another improve. Americans are all lone wolves. The Poles act like a team.

No. As a professor of mine liked to say, "contractions are slow and sloppy". As for your question, it really depends on the stroke. There are many types, with their own particular blend of a wide series of contractions working in concert with any blend of the repeatable forces our bodies...

This post was telling enough... Repeatable forces are obviously more reliable and consistent than contractions. The body integrates them seemlessly in natural motion. They are required for fine force control in vertabrates. Any single contraction of a muscle simply cannot offer anywhere...

Yes it does. Shoulder and wrist/fingers...let's not leave out the other joints of the arm now :p. I won't share the details of exactly how here. All I can point to is the slew of all time greats who have some movement of the elbow. And it needn't be a large move. While the guys I listed...

A primarily contraction driven flexion of the elbow can never approach the precision of a multi joint move of which a collapse of the elbow joint is a component. You will be able to collapse the elbow joint and be accurate, sure. But to do so with touch and precice force control, you will need...

As I said, you can take a full course or two on this and not fully get it. Movement is very complex. This is why it is relatively easy to program a computer to think like a human, but we are a long way off from programming a robot to move like a human. The point isn't that the elbow moves...

It's not a matter of 'shoulds'. For fhe all time greats I mentioned--Earl, SVB, Mika, Efren, Busty--and many other phenomenal cueists including Ronnie O'Sullivam, all joints of the arm ARE involved. My contention is that these are not strokes that are full of flaws that have been overcome by...

You misunderstood my answer. By "vertabrate movement," i was referring to how movement works in all vertabrate animals, not the bones of the spine. That little elbow ossilation is a tell tale sign that the player is moving naturally... more in line with how vertabrates evolved to move. And...

Yes, if relying on an elbow flexor contraction as the primary driver of the stroke, it isn't actually the biceps, it is the other elbow flexor, the brachialis. Tho many people do indeed use the biceps and are often plagued by their wrist turning over as the primary function of the biceps is...

Vertabrate movement as in how movement evolved in all vertabrate animals. This applies to efficient movement in a horse or cheetah as much as it does to a human.

Im not gonna get into the minutia of how efficient movement works here but will say that I've heard pendulum purists say things like "it's okay if the elbow moves up slightly in the backswing". I will go one further than them by saying it is not just okay, but that this tiny ossilation you see...