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Well, I don't know exactly what he was including for balls as a "package" with the table. I'm pretty sure it was some type of Forstmann cloth and possibly basic Aramith balls. I just got his numbers to upgrade to what I want. I'll have to ask him what his standard package normally includes...

Thanks, I'll see what the numbers are go from there. I think his prices are generally very fair, so I'm not too worried. He did talk me into Gorina Basalt instead of Simonis 860. He said speed-wise it was comparable to the 860, but he gives better marks to the Gorina when it comes to...

For around 3K you can get the solid wood Olhausen Santa Ana, a somewhat "plain" but nice-looking table. And you can customize on their website with different legs, aprons, finishes, even different wood for the rails if you want...a few of which are "upgrades". I also like the Cavalier rails...

I know I enjoy the game! This will be my first (and only) table purchase, and at the age of 40, I think I've waited long enough! I'm very much an amateur, but like the game enough to know that I want a quality playing experience. And although money IS an issue (I'm going for a table in the 3...

narrowing choices a bit I'm close to ordering my new table: an Olhausen Montrachet. Dealer typically puts some flavor of Forstman cloth on (not sure which), but he'll upgrade me to Simonis 860 for $70. Another dealer swears by Brunswick Centennial cloth. I'm not a pro, but want good...