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Thank you for your input, I contacted Denis Diekmann and he explained to me that this cue with the ccs on without the helmstetter is one of 1000 that carl made in japan from efren reyes specs after he came back to the states helmstetter made thousands of these but any cvs cue without the...

I have this cue that I have some questions about first I have seen this cue in a previous az forum but this cue does not have the helmstetter signature this cue may be earlier or possible one of the first prototypes anyone that can help please let me know