akane
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So this came up tonight.
The cueball and 8ball are a few millimetres apart.
The shooter jacks up about 45degrees, and is playing away at an angle (you can kind of see this by the way the cueball shoots off to the left side)
Foul, or no foul?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgTcJ_5f4Mw&list=UUqdM9RfXt81EgmeL8VtpzSA&index=1
The person watching the shot called no foul, as he could not see a clear double hit of the cuetip on the cueball, nor was there an obvious push of the cue through the cueball.
There is a section on the BCA website called "Ask the ref with Bill Stock" where he mentions the old WSR rules state that if the cueball travels 1/2 ball through the object ball, it is a foul. However this was subsequently changed to simply state that it is a foul if the cue strikes the cueball more than once.
The opposing player said "..but the physics of it..it must be a double hit.." - referring to something similar to the old WSR rule that the cueball had travelled into the space the 8ball was occupying.
The person watching the shot replied that had the shooter been striking directly straight through the 8, then that may have been correct. However in this case he was shooting both jacked up, and at an angle of maybe 30-40 degrees to the left of straight-on.
His final call was that he could neither see, or hear, a clear and distinct double hit (or a push shot for that matter) and therefore ruled in favour of the shooter.
What do y'all think?
The cueball and 8ball are a few millimetres apart.
The shooter jacks up about 45degrees, and is playing away at an angle (you can kind of see this by the way the cueball shoots off to the left side)
Foul, or no foul?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgTcJ_5f4Mw&list=UUqdM9RfXt81EgmeL8VtpzSA&index=1
The person watching the shot called no foul, as he could not see a clear double hit of the cuetip on the cueball, nor was there an obvious push of the cue through the cueball.
There is a section on the BCA website called "Ask the ref with Bill Stock" where he mentions the old WSR rules state that if the cueball travels 1/2 ball through the object ball, it is a foul. However this was subsequently changed to simply state that it is a foul if the cue strikes the cueball more than once.
The opposing player said "..but the physics of it..it must be a double hit.." - referring to something similar to the old WSR rule that the cueball had travelled into the space the 8ball was occupying.
The person watching the shot replied that had the shooter been striking directly straight through the 8, then that may have been correct. However in this case he was shooting both jacked up, and at an angle of maybe 30-40 degrees to the left of straight-on.
His final call was that he could neither see, or hear, a clear and distinct double hit (or a push shot for that matter) and therefore ruled in favour of the shooter.
What do y'all think?