One pocket rules qstion "Forgotten owed ball"

KoolKat9Lives

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This happens a lot... Someone owes a ball & it's forgotten to be spotted after his inning (and he has a ball in his pocket). An inning or two passes when the coin is discovered indicating an owed ball. When do you spot the ball?

I read the rules for the DCC, but I don't know if that's gospel. It said when it is discovered, the ball is spotted after both players have completed their inning.

Is this correct?
 
Cornerman

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KoolKat9Lives said:
This happens a lot... Someone owes a ball & it's forgotten to be spotted after his inning (and he has a ball in his pocket). An inning or two passes when the coin is discovered indicating an owed ball. When do you spot the ball?

I read the rules for the DCC, but I don't know if that's gospel. It said when it is discovered, the ball is spotted after both players have completed their inning.

Is this correct?
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That would be the norm.

And FWIW, the term most often used in one pocket circles is "slept ball."

Freddie
 
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KoolKat9Lives said:
This happens a lot... Someone owes a ball & it's forgotten to be spotted after his inning (and he has a ball in his pocket). An inning or two passes when the coin is discovered indicating an owed ball. When do you spot the ball?

I read the rules for the DCC, but I don't know if that's gospel. It said when it is discovered, the ball is spotted after both players have completed their inning.

Is this correct?
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The player that owes would spot the "late" ball at end of his inning is how we always do it.
 
Bob Jewett

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KoolKat9Lives said:
This happens a lot... Someone owes a ball & it's forgotten to be spotted after his inning (and he has a ball in his pocket). An inning or two passes when the coin is discovered indicating an owed ball. When do you spot the ball?

I read the rules for the DCC, but I don't know if that's gospel. It said when it is discovered, the ball is spotted after both players have completed their inning.

Is this correct?
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As Freddie said, that's how it is usually done. It gives both players a chance to adjust their strategy to the new situation.

I was just thinking about an additional complication. Suppose a player is in a run and has pocketed a ball in the side pocket and then notices that he has a coin on the rail for a slept ball. You could argue that since a ball is going to be spotted for this turn you might as well spot everything, but I think you need to wait on the slept ball.
 
GoldenFlash

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Cornerman said:
That would be the norm.
And FWIW, the term most often used in one pocket circles is "slept ball."
Freddie
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The old time gamblers down south played a slept ball as too bad for you if you woke up to it later.
In other words, "you snooze, you lose".
 
Bob Jewett

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GoldenFlash said:
The old time gamblers down south played a slept ball as too bad for you if you woke up to it later.
In other words, "you snooze, you lose".
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I think "you snooze, you lose" may be a good idea but in the other direction. If a player "forgets" he owes a ball and doesn't spot one at the end of his inning and his opponent gets to the table to shoot without a ball being spotted, the first player should put up two balls for trying to sneak one through. That would encourage following the rules rather than encouraging cheating.
 
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