Just wondering if you would consider this cheating or an honest mistake?
Our local VNEA league coordinator and tournament director ran a series of 32 qualifiers 8ball, race to 2, D/E where the top two finishers got a spot in a big finals tournament. The finials was 64 players with almost $6000 in prize money to be awarded everyone of the 64 players got money.
So where the issue I have is the tournament director lets call him P is in a match for 9/12th with a player we will call B. B is up 1 to 0 in the race to 2 and P is shooting. P misses his last ball and scratches leaving a fairly easy 5 ball out as B is a very good player. P (the tournament director) then proceeds to take his playing cue apart and put it in his case and sit in his chair! B gets up and starts shooting but gets tough on the 8 and misses it. P then jumps out of his chair takes his cue out of his case screws it back together and pockets the two remaining balls. B then goes to rack for the hill game and while he is the P is informed that taking his cue apart is ILLEAGAL and upon B returning from racking he tells B that what he did was ILLEAGAL claims he had no idea and says he is sorry! Then P proceeds to let B break the next game and P ends up winning the hill game and eliminating B! P goes on to finish 4th and make significantly more money.
I was playing on the next table over and was so angry watching this I started to shake, I couldn’t believe P who I have known and helped for years would do this. To me its flat out cheating, even if he didn’t know the rule he was informed of it and I feel that instead of apologizing he as the tournament director should have forfeited the game which would have cost him the match no just said I’m sorry. P has played for about 20 years been to the VNEA championship in Vegas between 5 and 10 times and in fact is only a week back from it this year! So I find it hard to believe he didn’t know that you can’t do that but even if he did he should have done what I believe is right and forfeited the game!
I spoke to P the next day and told him I think he cheated and he was a scumbag for pulling that move and he said he made an honest mistake and apologized for it so it was ok!
Further as I have known P for years we have had many discussions about running tournaments and I have voiced my opinion many times that there are 3 things a tournament director at a big event like this shouldn’t do 1) you are being paid to run it and therefore should not play as it is a conflict of interest. 2) Drink while running the tournament, which he started to do as soon as the bar opened, his reasoning was I always drink while I play! 3) cheat, as a tournament director you must be beyond reproach in your actions even if it is detrimental to yourself.
What does everyone else think, please vote on the poll.
Our local VNEA league coordinator and tournament director ran a series of 32 qualifiers 8ball, race to 2, D/E where the top two finishers got a spot in a big finals tournament. The finials was 64 players with almost $6000 in prize money to be awarded everyone of the 64 players got money.
So where the issue I have is the tournament director lets call him P is in a match for 9/12th with a player we will call B. B is up 1 to 0 in the race to 2 and P is shooting. P misses his last ball and scratches leaving a fairly easy 5 ball out as B is a very good player. P (the tournament director) then proceeds to take his playing cue apart and put it in his case and sit in his chair! B gets up and starts shooting but gets tough on the 8 and misses it. P then jumps out of his chair takes his cue out of his case screws it back together and pockets the two remaining balls. B then goes to rack for the hill game and while he is the P is informed that taking his cue apart is ILLEAGAL and upon B returning from racking he tells B that what he did was ILLEAGAL claims he had no idea and says he is sorry! Then P proceeds to let B break the next game and P ends up winning the hill game and eliminating B! P goes on to finish 4th and make significantly more money.
I was playing on the next table over and was so angry watching this I started to shake, I couldn’t believe P who I have known and helped for years would do this. To me its flat out cheating, even if he didn’t know the rule he was informed of it and I feel that instead of apologizing he as the tournament director should have forfeited the game which would have cost him the match no just said I’m sorry. P has played for about 20 years been to the VNEA championship in Vegas between 5 and 10 times and in fact is only a week back from it this year! So I find it hard to believe he didn’t know that you can’t do that but even if he did he should have done what I believe is right and forfeited the game!
I spoke to P the next day and told him I think he cheated and he was a scumbag for pulling that move and he said he made an honest mistake and apologized for it so it was ok!
Further as I have known P for years we have had many discussions about running tournaments and I have voiced my opinion many times that there are 3 things a tournament director at a big event like this shouldn’t do 1) you are being paid to run it and therefore should not play as it is a conflict of interest. 2) Drink while running the tournament, which he started to do as soon as the bar opened, his reasoning was I always drink while I play! 3) cheat, as a tournament director you must be beyond reproach in your actions even if it is detrimental to yourself.
What does everyone else think, please vote on the poll.