Good LBM

Dave38 · Mar 17, 2016

I need some white LBM for ferrules, I tried Ageis II and wasn't happy with it. It looked translucent when at final size and not the solid white that the LBM they used to have. I like to use it for break ferrules. Basically, I know the suppliers, but which place supplies the best? Please PM me, don't post it here.
Dave

Dave38 · Mar 18, 2016

Thanks for the PM's
Dave

radge69 · Mar 18, 2016

If someone wouldn't mind passing the info to me as well, I'd appreciate it. I've been on the hunt for awhile now and haven't been happy with what I've been getting.

SFC9ball · Mar 18, 2016

I would like some information on this as well. Thanks.

Kim Bye · Mar 18, 2016

The one from guitarparts has streaks in it.
Did a ferrule with the LBM from Schmelke here the other day, much whiter and uniform in colour and texture. I see Joe sells LBM rods too, but I have not tried it.

Dave38 · Mar 18, 2016

Kim Bye said:
The one from guitarparts has streaks in it.
Did a ferrule with the LBM from Schmelke here the other day, much whiter and uniform in colour and texture. I see Joe sells LBM rods too, but I have not tried it.

Was it dirt streaks or more like a grainwork streak? I'm looking for the solid white or off white, not the translucent white of the ageis II. As far as Joe....if I was handcuffed to a bomb, and he had the key... I wouldn't buy the key from him..
Dave

Kingpin · Mar 18, 2016

Dave38 said:
Was it dirt streaks or more like a grainwork streak? I'm looking for the solid white or off white, not the translucent white of the ageis II. As far as Joe....if I was handcuffed to a bomb, and he had the key... I wouldn't buy the key from him..
Dave

That's funny right there.

rhinobywilhite · Mar 18, 2016

Kingpin said:
That's funny right there.

Man does have a way of making his point!

Kim Bye · Mar 20, 2016

Dave38 said:
Was it dirt streaks or more like a grainwork streak? I'm looking for the solid white or off white, not the translucent white of the ageis II. As far as Joe....if I was handcuffed to a bomb, and he had the key... I wouldn't buy the key from him..
Dave

Grain streaks. Or rather grain streak, one streak that obviously runs through the whole rod.
Oher than that streak, the LBM is good quality. I just it was whiter and without the streak in it..

Dave38 · Mar 20, 2016

Kim Bye said:
Grain streaks. Or rather grain streak, one streak that obviously runs through the whole rod.
Oher than that streak, the LBM is good quality. I just it was whiter and without the streak in it..

Ok, thanks. I know on their site they call it 'ivory-like' so I would think it may have some graiwork to resemble ivory.
I have a foot ordered, so I'll see.
Dave

Dave38 · Mar 29, 2016

Kim Bye said:
Grain streaks. Or rather grain streak, one streak that obviously runs through the whole rod.
Oher than that streak, the LBM is good quality. I just it was whiter and without the streak in it..

Got it in and compared it to the Ageis II, it looks identical, and when held to a light, it was just as translucent, and the streak appears to show that it's flat sheet turned round...

. It's not bad stuff, just that I want the solid white that LBM used to be...:shrug:
Schmelke is next on the list to try...
dave

ideologist · Mar 29, 2016

I have what you're looking for, how much do you need?

qbilder · Mar 29, 2016

The best LBM was made by Spaulding, but it's no longer made. It was hard, clean, and bright opaque white. Perfect stuff for cue ferrules, but gone the way of the dinosaurs.

Dave38 · Mar 30, 2016

All I'm really looking for is the type of LBM that Atlas used to sell and McDermott used to have on their cues. How does the ivorine 4 compare?
Just want the old style white LBM...

Dave

Bank it · Mar 30, 2016

Dave38 said:
All I'm really looking for is the type of LBM that Atlas used to sell and McDermott used to have on their cues. How does the ivorine 4 compare?

Just want the old style white LBM...

Dave

I believe Ideologist made an offer here 3 posts back.

j2pac · Mar 30, 2016

Dave38 said:
All I'm really looking for is the type of LBM that Atlas used to sell and McDermott used to have on their cues. How does the ivorine 4 compare?
Just want the old style white LBM...
Dave

I believe Ivorine 4 is heavier, and harder.

john coloccia · Mar 30, 2016

Dave38 said:
All I'm really looking for is the type of LBM that Atlas used to sell and McDermott used to have on their cues. How does the ivorine 4 compare?
Just want the old style white LBM...
Dave

I actually just spoke with McDermott about that. They stopped using it because it simply doesn't exist anymore. Anyhow, the material was hygroscopic and was a constant source of problems. If you look at any old McDermott shaft, the ferrule doesn't fit well anymore.

He said they use Juma for ferrules now. Apparently Ivorine 3 was nice as well, but people didn't like the visible weave. Again, this is just what he told me, but he seemed to feel like Juma was a good replacement for the old linen ferrules. It came up because I have an old McDermott shaft that I need to replace the ferrule on, and I wanted to know what a good choice would be.

j2pac · Mar 30, 2016

john coloccia said:
I actually just spoke with McDermott about that. They stopped using it because it simply doesn't exist anymore. Anyhow, the material was hygroscopic and was a constant source of problems. If you look at any old McDermott shaft, the ferrule doesn't fit well anymore.

He said they use Juma for ferrules now. Apparently Ivorine 3 was nice as well, but people didn't like the visible weave. Again, this is just what he told me, but he seemed to feel like Juma was a good replacement for the old linen ferrules. It came up because I have an old McDermott shaft that I need to replace the ferrule on, and I wanted to know what a good choice would be.

Contact Bob Dzuricky. Ask him about Tomahawk.

john coloccia · Mar 30, 2016

j2pac said:
Contact Bob Dzuricky. Ask him about Tomahawk.

Actually, I was meaning to contact you about that material soon. Apparently I have some sort of Hightower cue lathe thingy that I ordered showing up end up April sometime, so I should probably start ordering some parts I can butcher.

Is Bob the distributor now, or is it direct through you?

Anyhow, I did play with Ivorine-3. I don't know how to describe it. I thought it played on the harder side but didn't seem like it transmitted crisp feedback. I would have thought the two would be synonymous. The weave WAS actually pretty distracting, too. That's all just nitpicking though. It was still a nice hit and played well. Seemed to have just a bit less deflection than the old linen ferrules too, so I can only assume it's a little lighter.

(edit: maybe the best way to describe it is it seemed to deaden all of the high frequency vibration....firm hit, but it felt dead and made it hard to adjust my stroke from shot to shot. Just my opinion, though.)

j2pac · Mar 30, 2016

john coloccia said:
Actually, I was meaning to contact you about that material soon. Apparently I have some sort of Hightower cue lathe thingy that I ordered showing up end up April sometime, so I should probably start ordering some parts I can butcher. Is Bob the distributor now, or is it direct through you?

Anyhow, I did play with Ivorine-3. I don't know how to describe it. I thought it played on the harder side but didn't seem like it transmitted crisp feedback. I would have thought the two would be synonymous. The weave WAS actually pretty distracting, too. That's all just nitpicking though. It was still a nice hit and played well. Seemed to have just a bit less deflection than the old linen ferrules too, so I can only assume it's a little lighter.

Bob has some right now. He gets it from me. Please PM me for any further information. Thank you, and have a great day.

j2

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