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05-16-2018, 09:54 PM

Here's how I hit it ....https://youtu.be/MUHghrKkVDo


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05-17-2018, 05:16 AM

Respectfully, you struck a lovely draw shot but your margin of error for distance was fractional. Cutting across the line of the 2-ball that close to the 2-ball . . .


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05-17-2018, 06:52 AM

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Respectfully, you struck a lovely draw shot but your margin of error for distance was fractional. Cutting across the line of the 2-ball that close to the 2-ball . . .
Yes, I made sure to go a little farther after that first shot.
As you know, some shots require cutting across the line. Watch any pro match and you'll see it very often. Strict adherence to position guidelines is not reality. I could shoot this 100 times, and I'm sure sometimes I'd glance off that 2 every now and then, sometimes I'd be straight in on the 2, other times I'd have a thinner or thicker angle than I want, and other times I'd hit it absolutely perfect. But of all the options, this works best for me.

I think many players are misled into believing that shape must be perfect, that pros are always perfectly in line and therefore we should be also if we expect to be a good player. But that's not the reality of playing pool, not even for the greatest players. Sure, sometimes we must get perfect position, but that doesn't mean we will, whether you play like Jason Shaw or not. Probably 99% of the time, playing 9 or 10 ball, all you really need is a shot angle that leads to the next shot, focusing on the process from one shot to the next, gaining position in a general area, not overthinking or overtrying to get perfect position. Thinking this way, and incorporating the basics of position play when possible, leads to solid play in my opinion, and you'll find yourself getting near perfect quite often without really trying.


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Yes, I made sure to go a little farther after that first shot.
As you know, some shots require cutting across the line. Watch any pro match and you'll see it very often. Strict adherence to position guidelines is not reality. I could shoot this 100 times, and I'm sure sometimes I'd glance off that 2 every now and then, sometimes I'd be straight in on the 2, other times I'd have a thinner or thicker angle than I want, and other times I'd hit it absolutely perfect. But of all the options, this works best for me.

I think many players are misled into believing that shape must be perfect, that pros are always perfectly in line and therefore we should be also if we expect to be a good player. But that's not the reality of playing pool, not even for the greatest players. Sure, sometimes we must get perfect position, but that doesn't mean we will, whether you play like Jason Shaw or not. Probably 99% of the time, playing 9 or 10 ball, all you really need is a shot angle that leads to the next shot, focusing on the process from one shot to the next, gaining position in a general area, not overthinking or overtrying to get perfect position. Thinking this way, and incorporating the basics of position play when possible, leads to solid play in my opinion, and you'll find yourself getting near perfect quite often without really trying.
Yes, I can see it in a pro match. From an education standpoint, 90% of league players cut the line constantly to their detriment.


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Yes, I can see it in a pro match. From an education standpoint, 90% of league players cut the line constantly to their detriment.
That sounds about right. Instead of making it an exception (something that must be done every now and then in order to get the correct angle on the next ball), they shoot most shots with complete disregard, or ignorance, of the shot line and coming into the widest area for position.

That's where an instructor can help. The info is easily found in many books, but a live demonstration of the process is always more enlightening.


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05-18-2018, 01:42 PM

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I like the idea of playing the 2 uptable, but I'd try an approach with more MOE: a stun-rollthrough hit to come softly off the end rail at about the middle diamond.

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You know, that was actually my 1st thought. The only thing worrisome was landing with an angle where either the 4 or 5 would be a bit of an obstacle. Straight in would be best but anything else could present problems.
Actually, this is one of those scenarios where there's a number of ways you could go but whichever you choose it's going to have to be executed fairly well or you're liable to be in a bit of bother.
  
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Yesterday, 11:29 AM

I used masking tape to show possible position zones for a good shot on the 2 that'll lead to the 3.



Playing the cb to land behind the 2 for a shot up table or in the side would be very iffy, considering you must stop the cb in one of a few small areas as shown (anywhere on the tape would not be good). The 2-rail shape for a corner shot takes the cb toward the 5 ball, but could work if hit just right. The draw shot brings the cb into the largest position available to get a good shot on the 2. If you glance off the 2, the 2 rolls closer toward the corner pocket and the cb comes off the rail leaving a shot.

There are potential pitfalls with each shot here, so you'd have to decide for yourself which shot you can pull off most consistently. The most important thing, if you elect to go for it, is to pocket the 1 and not hook yourself on the 2.


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Great job Brian. Some talk about how it should be or could be done. And even take time to judge your results.
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Great job Brian. Some talk about how it should be or could be done. And even take time to judge your results.
You taking the time to video / show is appreciated.
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