Ok I just got a shipment of Chris Refro's New Great White Chalk from Outsville.com here on AZ. I want to tell you I was very interested (but sceptical) in how this would perform. You see I've been a Magic chalk kinda guy for the past 4 years (and have 30+ boxes to spare.) I've play now over an hour with this- putting it thru it paces- and I love this stuff. You can feel the grip on the CB better than anything I've tried. Its a little tacker than Master, Blue Diamond, Magic chalk but nothing like Kamui and goes on with ease.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I've just been introduced to this next generation of Custom equipment with this Great White chalk. No CB bruising, no cloth stains, no blue hands/finger nails etc And... NO BLUE SHAFT.. This stuff miscues Less than Magic Chalk... I'm sure of it. It can't wait to see the side by side comparisons. I think it would be advisable to have a look at this if your a serious player. No Really. I've play pool over 30 years and this Great White Chalk, imo is the best of the whole lot.
Congratulations Chris... I hope you ordered enough Labels.
Randy
edit day 2
layed another 4 hours... chalk is out of the sealed baggy for 48 hours.. it's definitely drying out a bit. Its more flaky (lighter) in character and now is definitely "printing the CB" ie white bruises. This different than the 1st 24hrs. I find that this is less distracting than blue bruises though fwiw... but I still have to remove the white chalk off of whitey after 3-4 games. Also extreme english and shooting off of the rail (CB on the rail) requires more attention to avoid miscue than it did yesterday when the chalk was fresh. This also may be from tip wear (Ki-tech Med) I've been pounding some ball and or personal fatigue. We'll see over the week if this drying out continues. I wonder if a drop of water in the zip lock baggy would freshen it back to new feeling... hmmm after this week I'll test to see if this technique might be an adjunct to consider. For now more pool fun.
Ok edit day 3: Its definately drying out.. I play one pocket (ie shoot off of the rail a lot) and my for quality gripping power test is being able to cue (with spin) softly while shooting of the rail. This requires a no miscue while shooting off line from CCB while whitey is parked froze to the rail. This is extreme english when off CCB shooting off of the rail while shooting a soft tweeking stroke shot. This is why I love Magic Chalk so much. It preforms under these recurring situations WITH OUT FAIL. And you really don't have to spend much time re chalking (every 3 -5 shots) to shoot this type of shot. It simply grips the CB. Now when I first started playing with the Great White chalk it had these characteristics when is was less dry. Now with it being more dry, I'm having trouble getting the Great White chalk to pass my rail test. I thought it was my tip characteristics (balding/glazing) so I shaped it back up on my lathe (with knap etc) and tried the extreme english rail shots for another 15 minutes or so with no appreciable change for the better. ie Miscued a lot with this touchy shot at any speed. I found I was trying to apply the Great white chalk multiple times now that is was dry with most of the chalk turning to powder and headed to the floor. This was not the case when I first opened the packaging. To prove this, I opened another new package of 'Creamy Great White' applied it and did the same rail test and it worked as it did on the first day of the previous sample. So... fwiw, I'm gunna have to pull back on my original thoughts of it being the NUTS until the carrier/ fillers has the creamy consistency as it does when its new. So in summery now after 3 days of drying out its usable if your are a CCB only (+- 1/2 tip) kinda player imo. I ended up removing the Great White off of my 2 identical cues (with ki-tech mediums on Mezz WX900's) and went back to the Magic Chalk and I felt very much at home again performing the rail shots with extreme english using soft thru fast speeds shots with out fail (no miscues). I wish there was a way that Great White would maintain its NEW Creamy character because I know Pool players will just throw it in the case (and dry it out) like we do with every other brand (including Magic Chalk). IMO I think if this issue gets resolved Chris will have a gem. For now, for me, I back to using my solid staple Magic chalk... its track record is stellar.
Best of luck Chris,
See you DCC.
Randy
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I've just been introduced to this next generation of Custom equipment with this Great White chalk. No CB bruising, no cloth stains, no blue hands/finger nails etc And... NO BLUE SHAFT.. This stuff miscues Less than Magic Chalk... I'm sure of it. It can't wait to see the side by side comparisons. I think it would be advisable to have a look at this if your a serious player. No Really. I've play pool over 30 years and this Great White Chalk, imo is the best of the whole lot.
Congratulations Chris... I hope you ordered enough Labels.
Randy
edit day 2
layed another 4 hours... chalk is out of the sealed baggy for 48 hours.. it's definitely drying out a bit. Its more flaky (lighter) in character and now is definitely "printing the CB" ie white bruises. This different than the 1st 24hrs. I find that this is less distracting than blue bruises though fwiw... but I still have to remove the white chalk off of whitey after 3-4 games. Also extreme english and shooting off of the rail (CB on the rail) requires more attention to avoid miscue than it did yesterday when the chalk was fresh. This also may be from tip wear (Ki-tech Med) I've been pounding some ball and or personal fatigue. We'll see over the week if this drying out continues. I wonder if a drop of water in the zip lock baggy would freshen it back to new feeling... hmmm after this week I'll test to see if this technique might be an adjunct to consider. For now more pool fun.Ok edit day 3: Its definately drying out.. I play one pocket (ie shoot off of the rail a lot) and my for quality gripping power test is being able to cue (with spin) softly while shooting of the rail. This requires a no miscue while shooting off line from CCB while whitey is parked froze to the rail. This is extreme english when off CCB shooting off of the rail while shooting a soft tweeking stroke shot. This is why I love Magic Chalk so much. It preforms under these recurring situations WITH OUT FAIL. And you really don't have to spend much time re chalking (every 3 -5 shots) to shoot this type of shot. It simply grips the CB. Now when I first started playing with the Great White chalk it had these characteristics when is was less dry. Now with it being more dry, I'm having trouble getting the Great White chalk to pass my rail test. I thought it was my tip characteristics (balding/glazing) so I shaped it back up on my lathe (with knap etc) and tried the extreme english rail shots for another 15 minutes or so with no appreciable change for the better. ie Miscued a lot with this touchy shot at any speed. I found I was trying to apply the Great white chalk multiple times now that is was dry with most of the chalk turning to powder and headed to the floor. This was not the case when I first opened the packaging. To prove this, I opened another new package of 'Creamy Great White' applied it and did the same rail test and it worked as it did on the first day of the previous sample. So... fwiw, I'm gunna have to pull back on my original thoughts of it being the NUTS until the carrier/ fillers has the creamy consistency as it does when its new. So in summery now after 3 days of drying out its usable if your are a CCB only (+- 1/2 tip) kinda player imo. I ended up removing the Great White off of my 2 identical cues (with ki-tech mediums on Mezz WX900's) and went back to the Magic Chalk and I felt very much at home again performing the rail shots with extreme english using soft thru fast speeds shots with out fail (no miscues). I wish there was a way that Great White would maintain its NEW Creamy character because I know Pool players will just throw it in the case (and dry it out) like we do with every other brand (including Magic Chalk). IMO I think if this issue gets resolved Chris will have a gem. For now, for me, I back to using my solid staple Magic chalk... its track record is stellar.
Best of luck Chris,
See you DCC.
Randy
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