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Miscues are most often caused by a bad stroke. Even with the best stroke, however, miscues occur where player hits too far from cue-ball center. It is generally accepted that the maximum distance from cue-ball center before miscuing is one-half of cue-ball radius (0.5R, 9/16", 14.3mm). Some billiard-ball stripes are that width. With some effort, Dr. Dave found a maximum miscue limit of 0.55R. Certainly, beginning players should keep within 0.5R to prevent miscues.
The Jim Rempe Training ball has a miscue limit of 0.7R — a disaster. See photo below of a 12.6mm cue tip sitting in front of a Rempe ball. The cue-tip edge sits above the furthest training-ball circle for applying spin (20.2mm from ball center). Applying draw at 0.7R requires tip scrape table cloth.
CueSight’s Precision Training ball provides guides at a 0.61R distance — also impossible for beginner to achieve without miscuing. CueSight and Rempe balls should be like that of the Elephant Practice ball that has a training circle of 0.5R (the white ball with a red circle below).
Experienced players --- not beginners --- know the training balls’ training circles are unrealistic. A DrDave video shows a Rempe ball miscuing well within the zone that supposedly spin can be applied (0.6R). When YouTuber Ron the Pool Student uses a Rempe ball in figures, cue tip hits well above Rempe maximum. In photo below, he shows tip contacting ball at a Rempe-3 marking (0.5R). The tip crosses Rempe circles marked two to five. Since tip contact would be on the left half of the tip, actual contact would be at about 3. Training balls instruct players to find the chalk smudge on training ball to determine where tip hit ball --- that would be at about the left half of tip if left spin is applied.
Others that appear to have the realistic, training-circle sizes like that of the Elephant Ball are iCue, Q-Tru, and Action Toxic.
In photo below the balls' circumference is measured while in text above the linear distance is discussed. The whie ball is an Elephant ball and the red and white ball is a CueSight ball.
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The Jim Rempe Training ball has a miscue limit of 0.7R — a disaster. See photo below of a 12.6mm cue tip sitting in front of a Rempe ball. The cue-tip edge sits above the furthest training-ball circle for applying spin (20.2mm from ball center). Applying draw at 0.7R requires tip scrape table cloth.
CueSight’s Precision Training ball provides guides at a 0.61R distance — also impossible for beginner to achieve without miscuing. CueSight and Rempe balls should be like that of the Elephant Practice ball that has a training circle of 0.5R (the white ball with a red circle below).
Experienced players --- not beginners --- know the training balls’ training circles are unrealistic. A DrDave video shows a Rempe ball miscuing well within the zone that supposedly spin can be applied (0.6R). When YouTuber Ron the Pool Student uses a Rempe ball in figures, cue tip hits well above Rempe maximum. In photo below, he shows tip contacting ball at a Rempe-3 marking (0.5R). The tip crosses Rempe circles marked two to five. Since tip contact would be on the left half of the tip, actual contact would be at about 3. Training balls instruct players to find the chalk smudge on training ball to determine where tip hit ball --- that would be at about the left half of tip if left spin is applied.
Others that appear to have the realistic, training-circle sizes like that of the Elephant Ball are iCue, Q-Tru, and Action Toxic.
In photo below the balls' circumference is measured while in text above the linear distance is discussed. The whie ball is an Elephant ball and the red and white ball is a CueSight ball.
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