If you are getting spotted 9-7 and the break from a superior oponent, Is it right to give up the break to add 1-2 balls to your opponent.... Say 10-7 or 11-7 and alternate the break?
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It depends
It depends mainly on how well you move getting out of an opponents break. It depends on how well that opponent breaks as well. The break should be worth a ball or two. So to me you are not changing the spot. If you can not win at one you should not be able to win at the other.
It depends mainly on how well you move getting out of an opponents break. It depends on how well that opponent breaks as well. The break should be worth a ball or two. So to me you are not changing the spot. If you can not win at one you should not be able to win at the other.
My other question would be how well do you break? If you have a weak break or tend to scratch a lot, that 1 to 2 balls the break gives you could actually be turning it into a rack played even. If you really wanted to test the waters on both spots you could play alternate break and shift the spot according to whos breaking.
The thing is, he's only giving you the break 50% of the time, since 1pocket is an alternate break game. So he's probably not going to go 10-7.
Here's the thing about "getting the break": if you're the one constantly breaking, in theory, you should get better and better at it as the session goes on and you adjust to the speed of the table, the balls and whatnot. So "the break" can actually become a bigger spot as the session goes on.
Lou Figueroa
Lou is correct about the break. If the matches are close the player giving weight should want to alternate thus negating that from happening. I guess we should ask what you are losing by? If it is a ball or two then I would keep the break and go up a ball on them and/or down a ball on you. If you are losing by 4 or 5 then you don't need a spot, you need practice.
If the superior opponent well known to run 8 or 9 and out never give him the break, most likely his break will be so good, you will leave a shot after trying to move key balls. If he is known for very patient safe play, slow one ball at a time, i would alternate for say 9-6 his break, 10-7 your break.
Also, in my opinion, top players know that 7 is magic spot to bait you with, they know you will never make 7 balls before they make 10 or 11, stay with 6 or lower be patent do not play them first day, wait on them they will give up eventually, they are hungry to play more than you are.
The first session with the 9-7 and breaks I won by 1 game, Playing on a slower, straighter rolling table..
The 2nd session, We shot same spot. Different faster table,with funny rolls.. alternating pockets.. He prevailed by 4-5 games.
The 2nd session, We shot same spot. Different faster table,with funny rolls.. alternating pockets.. He prevailed by 4-5 games.
DrOnePocket
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Never agree to switch pockets on your break! For any reason
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This superior has played the likes of; Jose Parica, Scott Frost, Jerry Slevka, Cliff Joyner, and many more... He has the knowledge and experience from playing superior's...
I am still learning, But I feel I am progressing very fast.. Should I be playing someone of this caliber, Or should I step back and play people at my level until I beat them on a regular basis?
This superior has played the likes of; Jose Parica, Scott Frost, Jerry Slevka, Cliff Joyner, and many more... He has the knowledge and experience from playing superior's...
I am still learning, But I feel I am progressing very fast.. Should I be playing someone of this caliber, Or should I step back and play people at my level until I beat them on a regular basis?
a few thoughts
its not unusual in my experience for you to have to alternate pockets when you are breaking every game
the fact that this player has played strong players how did he play them???
if plays those guys with little spot
you better be VERY GOOD to really have achance
otherwise you are getting hustled(jmho)
the games you won and lost how close was the game???
if things are close
playing a better player and paying attention you will learns shots and moves you didnt know
if he is playing just tough enough to beat you you will still learn not as much and still lose
playing lesser players gives you confidence and lets you learn from your mistakes and not having your mistakes cost you loss of game
jmho
icbw
its not unusual in my experience for you to have to alternate pockets when you are breaking every game
the fact that this player has played strong players how did he play them???
if plays those guys with little spot
you better be VERY GOOD to really have achance
otherwise you are getting hustled(jmho)
the games you won and lost how close was the game???
if things are close
playing a better player and paying attention you will learns shots and moves you didnt know
if he is playing just tough enough to beat you you will still learn not as much and still lose
playing lesser players gives you confidence and lets you learn from your mistakes and not having your mistakes cost you loss of game
jmho
icbw
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I would give up the break for a couple of balls added to my opponent. Especially if it were alternating breaks to begin with. I think a good opponent that can outmove you can easily get out of a break even if they have to take an intentional foul