1 pocket situation, how would you play this layout?

Russ Chewning said:
I have purchased the video in question. He asked a question, I asked him to repost the question in a socially responsible manner. He'd already seen the video. I can't make him "unsee" it.

I don't pirate. I don't steal, period. I don't cheat people at pool. Ever. I don't drink and drive, and would see the death penalty as an acceptable punishment for doing so. Same for dealing drugs. I believe if the world was right, I'd be able to shoot and kill a person on my property who is attempting to steal from me, whether they are armed or not. We'd have less crime if more people had guns.

Here's me casting stones...

Russ

JESUS, is that you? :D
 
Russ Chewning said:
I have purchased the video in question. He asked a question, I asked him to repost the question in a socially responsible manner. He'd already seen the video. I can't make him "unsee" it.

With this statement, it's like sayin " So you already robbed a bank, can you spare me some 20? " :D

Russ Chewning said:
and would see the death penalty as an acceptable punishment for doing so. Same for dealing drugs.
Russ

If it's lethal injection or firing squad, I believe that would only save the criminals from the agony of punishment. a real punishment would be like death via the electric chair or burn at the stake.

Russ Chewning said:
I believe if the world was right, I'd be able to shoot and kill a person on my property who is attempting to steal from me, whether they are armed or not. We'd have less crime if more people had guns.
Here's me casting stones...

I don't totally agree that people having guns would solve or minimize the commission of crimes. it is more likely that guns had become an instrument in the perpetuation of crimes. it is rather a question of who should use it and how and why it should be used, rather than saying that owning guns will make most people think not to commit crime. Let us not easily forget the recent VA Tech incident where a wacko; who incidentally bought some guns, where his intentions in buying them were not for personal protection but to commit murder to a lot of people. this incident is not genuine where the tool for mass murders involved the use of a firearm. Guns kill is all I can say. So that means, everybody should ask for Jesus' permission (not you Russ). :D

Russ Chewning said:
I don't pirate. I don't steal, period. I don't cheat people at pool. Ever. I don't drink and drive, Here's me casting stones...
Russ

There's a new saint in town, and his name is RUSS. can I have your autograph? :D
 
Here's what I would do:
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and if I didn't feel comfortable with that shot for some reason, I would go with this one to make him air bridge and mess with his fundamentals:
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I'm not TOO great at 1-pocket strategy but I know the basics of keeping the CB between the pocket and any OB, keeping the rack between the CB and opponent's pocket when possible, using pocketing speed, etc.
 
Hail Mary Shot said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egWP6CWbXPA

this was taken from the DCC Alex vs Efren match. how would you play the layout shown at 0-1 sec of the video clip?


Getting back on topic.....

.....One downside to Alex's shot choice in this situation (other than mis-execution), is very possibly leaving your opponent a good angle at banking the 7 ball straight back......That said, I think the best shot choice here, and I think it's the shot option that I would pick if I was in this spot, would be to softly hit the right side of the 13 ball, (about 1/3rd of a ball hit).....The objective being to have the cue ball and the 13 ball after hitting the rail, end up about 1 inch off of the rail, and end up parallel to each other/or the cue ball slightly closer to the rail......This would leave the 13 un-bankable straight back - the 13 blocks the straight back bank on the 7 - and the stack hides/protects your 2 ball......................And, when playing one pocket, here's some words of wisdom from the Ghost .....It's ok to sell one chicken or one pig or one rooster - but don't sell the farm !
 
gulfportdoc said:
I believe he also could've taken the 8 out with the 5 ball, and left the CB safe.

Doc

Hi Doc;

Can't see what your saying? I can see using the 11 to take out the 8, but the 5?

Mike
 
1 Pocket Ghost said:
Getting back on topic.....

.....One downside to Alex's shot choice in this situation (other than mis-execution), is very possibly leaving your opponent a good angle at banking the 7 ball straight back......That said, I think the best shot choice here, and I think it's the shot option that I would pick if I was in this spot, would be to softly hit the right side of the 13 ball, (about 1/3rd of a ball hit).....The objective being to have the cue ball and the 13 ball after hitting the rail, end up about 1 inch off of the rail, and end up parallel to each other/or the cue ball slightly closer to the rail......This would leave the 13 un-bankable straight back - the 13 blocks the straight back bank on the 7 - and the stack hides/protects your 2 ball......................And, when playing one pocket, here's some words of wisdom from the Ghost .....It's ok to sell one chicken or one pig or one rooster - but don't sell the farm !

Although I think Alex's shot was the best one if you can execute it, your suggestion is excellent. On a more aggressive note, the 8 could be removed by sending the 11 to the side rail and back into the 8. Hit the 11 such that it crosses over the top of the 8 and both balls will move to Alex's side of the table, with the 8 maybe even spreading the rack a little toward that side. Its almost a full ball hit so a little follow would put the CB on the end rail about a diamond from Efren's pocket. Like I said, a little aggressive, but not that difficult.:)
 
Russ Chewning said:
I have purchased the video in question. He asked a question, I asked him to repost the question in a socially responsible manner. He'd already seen the video. I can't make him "unsee" it.

I don't pirate. I don't steal, period. I don't cheat people at pool. Ever. I don't drink and drive, and would see the death penalty as an acceptable punishment for doing so. Same for dealing drugs. I believe if the world was right, I'd be able to shoot and kill a person on my property who is attempting to steal from me, whether they are armed or not. We'd have less crime if more people had guns.

Here's me casting stones...

Russ


Hi Russ;

While I'm with you on Efren and the way your run your life, you perchant for death for those that may do something wrong is troubling. Not everyone that commits a crime deserves to die for it. Death penalty for drunk driving? Most all of us that are older have at one time or another done so, usually when we were younger, not that its right, its just the truth. Most small thefts in your neighborhood are done by your neighbors children, teens and preteens. Could you live with killing your neighbors 15 year old, that you knew since he was born, because he was sneaking into your car at night to steal a CD. Happened here last month. I believe if you think about it, you will realize that even though it really pisses you off, its not worth a life.

Mike
 
1 Pocket Ghost said:
Getting back on topic.....

.....One downside to Alex's shot choice in this situation (other than mis-execution), is very possibly leaving your opponent a good angle at banking the 7 ball straight back......That said, I think the best shot choice here, and I think it's the shot option that I would pick if I was in this spot, would be to softly hit the right side of the 13 ball, (about 1/3rd of a ball hit).....The objective being to have the cue ball and the 13 ball after hitting the rail, end up about 1 inch off of the rail, and end up parallel to each other/or the cue ball slightly closer to the rail......This would leave the 13 un-bankable straight back - the 13 blocks the straight back bank on the 7 - and the stack hides/protects your 2 ball......................And, when playing one pocket, here's some words of wisdom from the Ghost .....It's ok to sell one chicken or one pig or one rooster - but don't sell the farm !

I think you meant the 3, the 7 is still on the stack! I saw that 3 also at the top end of the table. thanks for the advice, don't worry, I don't sell farms that often as you think! I just gamble a few once in a while ! ;)
 
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Deadon said:
Although I think Alex's shot was the best one if you can execute it, your suggestion is excellent. On a more aggressive note, the 8 could be removed by sending the 11 to the side rail and back into the 8. Hit the 11 such that it crosses over the top of the 8 and both balls will move to Alex's side of the table, with the 8 maybe even spreading the rack a little toward that side. Its almost a full ball hit so a little follow would put the CB on the end rail about a diamond from Efren's pocket. Like I said, a little aggressive, but not that difficult.:)

so that would mean sending the 11 to the side rail near the point! that 8 does cause a lot of headache.
 
Deadon said:
Although I think Alex's shot was the best one if you can execute it, your suggestion is excellent. On a more aggressive note, the 8 could be removed by sending the 11 to the side rail and back into the 8. Hit the 11 such that it crosses over the top of the 8 and both balls will move to Alex's side of the table, with the 8 maybe even spreading the rack a little toward that side. Its almost a full ball hit so a little follow would put the CB on the end rail about a diamond from Efren's pocket. Like I said, a little aggressive, but not that difficult.:)
I think that would be tough to leave the CB where Efren wouldn't have a shot on the 11 which if I'm reading your post right would probably leave the 11 in a worse spot than the eight...I would keep working the 8 with kicks from the side rail until I could punt it out...
 
Like I said, if I was playing aggressive, I liked Alex's shot best, but for discussion I suggested the previous post. Look at the video and not the diagrams, they are a little off. The 11 hits the side rail and then hits the top of the 8. The 11 caroms toward the rack and the goes to the end rail and up toward the other side of the table. You don't hit the 8 full with the 11 so its not in the pocket, its hit across the top, like a crossover bank and both balls head toward the other side of the table. The CB is below them and out of the way.

I shot this shot earlier, and it came out perfect, first time. Its not that tough. 11 to the side and across the top of the 8. Follow on the CB to the end rail. Again, look at the video and not the cuetable diagrams. Just trying to think of another creative shot, aside from the better shots already discussed.
 
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