10 Ball Break

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Any tips on the 10 ball break on non tournament conditions new cloth. Well broken in slow Gold Crown 4 w/ Simonis 860.
 
daniel said:
Any tips on the 10 ball break on non tournament conditions new cloth. Well broken in slow Gold Crown 4 w/ Simonis 860.
Oh boy the dreaded 10 ball break! Just lately I have been spending a lot of time with the 10 ball break and so far I have not mastered it. Making a ball is the biggest problem and I have discussed this with many other players and the general issue that there are no dead balls in the rack.

Here are couple things that I have discovered that you may want to try.

Breaking from the side rail: Breaking from the side rail gives you the opportunity to make the one ball in the side or have it bank into the corner from where you are breaking. It also causes a lot of ball collisions that may slop another ball in. The problem with this break is that many times you will have a lot of balls end up congested on the rail making for a very difficuly run out.

Breaking from the box: Breaking from the box usually gives the best spead of the balls but making a ball on the break is sometimes difficult. I notice that a lot of ball barely miss pockets and even hang up. When this happens a change in speed or adding a hair of english to the cue ball may make a difference.

Unfortunately with all that is said I have yet to develope consistent results. I do believe that you have to hit the balls harder in 10 ball than you do in 9 ball but power doesn't always get the job done. I've watched Larry Nevel just crushing the balls and come up dry time and time again during a tournament.

I hope that you can at least get some different ideas from my information. If you come up with some miraculous way of consistently making a ball on the break please let me know. We'll keep it a secret! :)
 
Hey, Louis.. can you figure out how Shane break in 10 ball? i like how he can consitantly make the cueball jump backwards with some forward spin to go back to the middle of the table, and you can see there is lots of action on the table and it doesn't look like he uses much power.

Here is the video of his break during practice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNF5XRh5Udg
 
housecue said:
Hey, Louis.. can you figure out how Shane break in 10 ball? i like how he can consitantly make the cueball jump backwards with some forward spin to go back to the middle of the table, and you can see there is lots of action on the table and it doesn't look like he uses much power.

Here is the video of his break during practice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNF5XRh5Udg

Shane is using a standard break from the box. He's just really good at it. His timing through the ball is very precise and this is where the effortless appearance comes from. That's hundreds of hours of break practice that he has put in to achieve that.

The reason the cue ball jumps back off the rack and ends up back in the center is because of two opposite forces working against each other. The cue ball banks off of the rack forcing the cue ball toward the break box but the forward spin that is acquired causes the cue ball to come forward a little. When these forces work against each other in this fashion you get a "kill" reaction on the cue ball, which gives you the effect that you see in the video.

If you're working on your break you should know that you need to develope it over time. I don't believe that you can just get up and start hitting them harder and get good results. Concentrate on your timing rather than speed. You can increase your speed as you go. You also need to make sure that you're hitting the head ball as full as possible to get the optimum reaction.
 
Louis Ulrich said:
Shane is using a standard break from the box. He's just really good at it. His timing through the ball is very precise and this is where the effortless appearance comes from. That's hundreds of hours of break practice that he has put in to achieve that.

The reason the cue ball jumps back off the rack and ends up back in the center is because of two opposite forces working against each other. The cue ball banks off of the rack forcing the cue ball toward the break box but the forward spin that is acquired causes the cue ball to come forward a little. When these forces work against each other in this fashion you get a "kill" reaction on the cue ball, which gives you the effect that you see in the video.

If you're working on your break you should know that you need to develope it over time. I don't believe that you can just get up and start hitting them harder and get good results. Concentrate on your timing rather than speed. You can increase your speed as you go. You also need to make sure that you're hitting the head ball as full as possible to get the optimum reaction.

Thanks for the explanation. Yea, I have been going at this break the wrong way and trying to break harder. I'll work more on timing and hitting the ball dead on. Do you know if this is with center ball hit?
 
housecue said:
Thanks for the explanation. Yea, I have been going at this break the wrong way and trying to break harder. I'll work more on timing and hitting the ball dead on. Do you know if this is with center ball hit?
More than likely he is.
 
Louis,

I would like to thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge. Alot of pros don't have (take) the time. I think you are the greastest. And you are a hellva player. You proved that to me at the US Open.

Your newest fan,
jjollie
 
Hey, Louis, guess what? I practice the timing and aiming of this break and I made some progress. I was able to bounce the ball backwards a couple of times, the rack didn't spread that well but it's a start. It's all thanks to you for explaning the concept to me. You the greatest. :)
 
Thank you guys for the kind words. I'm glad that you enjoy what I have to offer and I hope that you can get something out of it to improve your game.

Chat at you later. Let me know if you run into anything that you need some help with. :D
 
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