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So your down to the ten ball, you call the corner pocket and accidentally make the 10 ball in a different pocket.
So what happens now? The 10 ball gets spotted and you play the cue ball where it lays or is it ball in hand with the cue ball , or do you just lose the game?
 
So your down to the ten ball, you call the corner pocket and accidentally make the 10 ball in a different pocket.
So what happens now? The 10 ball gets spotted and you play the cue ball where it lays or is it ball in hand with the cue ball , or do you just lose the game?

The cue ball remains where it is. The 10-ball gets spotted and your opponent has the option of either shooting or returning the table to you.
 
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Yep, David you are right Sir!


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I've always played that the 10 would get spotted and the incoming shooter plays the cue from where it is, not a ball in hand foul. I've never heard about passing the shot back.
 
I've always played that the 10 would get spotted and the incoming shooter plays the cue from where it is, not a ball in hand foul. I've never heard about passing the shot back.

Passing the shot back is a normal 10 ball rule when playing called shot/called safe since you pocketed a called ball in the wrong pocket. Same rules as in the middle of a game. Many places I have played in that play 9 ball with the called 9 also allow you to pass the shot back so as not to punish the incoming player and making them shoot from a spot they don't like (say if the guy corner hooked them, or they are on the rail 8 feet from the 9).
 
Can you give the shot back after a called safe as well? That doesn't really make it much of a safe then if they don't have to deal with your leave.
 
Can you give the shot back after a called safe as well? That doesn't really make it much of a safe then if they don't have to deal with your leave.

Only if you pocket a ball while calling a safe, then they can give it back to you.
 
Can you give the shot back after a called safe as well? That doesn't really make it much of a safe then if they don't have to deal with your leave.
If you are talking about the World Standardized Rules for 10-ball (WPA and BCA rules), there is effectively no safe call. If you don't make a ball, the other player must shoot. If you do make a ball but not your called shot, the other player has the choice of who will shoot next. Whether you have said "safe" is irrelevant.
 
If you are talking about the World Standardized Rules for 10-ball (WPA and BCA rules), there is effectively no safe call. If you don't make a ball, the other player must shoot. If you do make a ball but not your called shot, the other player has the choice of who will shoot next. Whether you have said "safe" is irrelevant.

I played a doubles 10-ball match last week, we had 3 players at a decent skill level and one that was quite a bit weaker who was my partner (he was about 50 points under the next lowest player). The handicap I came up with instead of a game or a ball spot was that when he shot, he did not have to call the shots or safe, so basically was under 9 ball rules, while the rest of us were on the call shot call safe rules. The match went hill hill playing like that, it was a really fun spot with the other team jokingly complaining with us when he would get lucky safes LOL

From playing this, the lucky rolls in a game over a set seem to amount to a one game spot in a race to 5 vs players that have to call all the shots and safes. I think if I was playing someone say 50 or 75 Fargo points over me, I would be OK with having a spot of my shots are not called but theirs need to be. For 100 points, I may need a game spot also.
 
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