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did you guys hear espn is planning on having 2-ball instead of 9-ball? two balls are lined up behind one another on the foot spot. you break hard, and have to run out. there is only the one and two ball. just kidding!!!!!! but hey, the way pool is going these days, i would believe they would have this crazy assed fast game.
 
well, i look at it this way, 9-ball is a dumb game, 7-ball is just sped up 9-ball so therefore it's a better game than 9-ball. it's like saying you have a choice, watching a stupid movie, that's 3 hours long, or watching a stupid movie that's 15 seconds. i'll take the 15 seconds.
 
Bernie, you must be an 8ball lover. I think just about any pool game is better than 8ball. Certainly for tournaments.

Any average Joe can run a rack of 8ball provided there are no clusters. You can make one positional error after another and still run the rack. No such thing at 9ball. 9ball is far more demanding as far as positional play goes.

Alex
 
amateur said:
Bernie, you must be an 8ball lover. I think just about any pool game is better than 8ball. Certainly for tournaments.

Any average Joe can run a rack of 8ball provided there are no clusters. You can make one positional error after another and still run the rack. No such thing at 9ball. 9ball is far more demanding as far as positional play goes.

Alex
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ummmm, excuse me?? no clusters?? Average Joe?? there are 6 extra balls to cause problems...more chance of clusters, balls being blocked, balls on the cushion..

There is immense debate over which is better: 9-ball or 8-ball, the answer to it is based purely on personal opinion..

But the comments you made are absolutely ludicrous...

Even though there is no set order of which ball to sink in 8-ball...if you have any idea about the game you would know that there are key balls.. Which causes you to think about strategy in greater detail, not just counting 1 through 9..

I love both games, as I love most games on the billiard table, but to make 8-ball out as a simple and easy to run out game is crazy..
 
BeeMan said:
ummmm, excuse me?? no clusters?? Average Joe?? there are 6 extra balls to cause problems...more chance of clusters, balls being blocked, balls on the cushion..

There is immense debate over which is better: 9-ball or 8-ball, the answer to it is based purely on personal opinion..

But the comments you made are absolutely ludicrous...

Even though there is no set order of which ball to sink in 8-ball...if you have any idea about the game you would know that there are key balls.. Which causes you to think about strategy in greater detail, not just counting 1 through 9..

I love both games, as I love most games on the billiard table, but to make 8-ball out as a simple and easy to run out game is crazy..
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8-ball is easy to run...i've seen rookies running the racks and they have no idea of what they're doing...well i guesse some idea..but you won't see that in 9-ball.
 
I am in agreement with the fact 8 ball is easier than 9 ball. I hate to admit this but I can regularly run 8 ball tables and finish in the top ten in our upper leagues in the 8 ball division. However, I hate that word, when playing nineball I have a great break but a tough time running nie out on a regular basis. I have started to play much better nine ball opposition with a dramatic increase in my games performance as I can not rely on hte misses of my opponent. I guess i am saying 9 ball induces discipline.

Sean
 
The way I see it, they're about the same difficulty, just in different ways. 9-ball is tougher because you have to float around (usually) the whole table to play position and you can only hit one ball - yet I seriously can't get behind a game that has a strategy of "hit the 2-ball really hard and hope something drops". On the other hand, there's no rotation in 8-ball, which means that you CAN get out of position and still have a shot. However, clusters, and the fact that there's 8 balls on the table you can't hit, make it difficult.

It's personal preference. Myself, I think we should all go back to straight.
 
beeman, you speak perfectly! you said it just right. in 8-ball there is something called pattern play, and you better take the best ball first, in 9-ball it's paint by numbers pool.
 
Mwack said:
The way I see it, they're about the same difficulty, just in different ways. 9-ball is tougher because you have to float around (usually) the whole table to play position and you can only hit one ball - yet I seriously can't get behind a game that has a strategy of "hit the 2-ball really hard and hope something drops". On the other hand, there's no rotation in 8-ball, which means that you CAN get out of position and still have a shot. However, clusters, and the fact that there's 8 balls on the table you can't hit, make it difficult.

It's personal preference. Myself, I think we should all go back to straight.
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ya gotta deal with cluster in 9-ball aswell which is why it's a harder game. In 8-ball you can get away with alot of mistakes but not in 9-ball one mistake will cost you a premium.
 
Cardinal_Syn said:
ya gotta deal with cluster in 9-ball aswell which is why it's a harder game. In 8-ball you can get away with alot of mistakes but not in 9-ball one mistake will cost you a premium.
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You may what you will, but for me personally 9-ball is forever the easier game. I runout, if I don't see a runout, I lay a snooker. That's it.

In 8ball, I never know how to play, as an early runout is difficult due to clusters, and I can never see the patterns I should play, and the runout seems to get more difficult the closer you get to the eight... sooooooooo many times I've attempted a full runout and I fail to get on the eight or the ball before it, due to the other 7 blocker balls. And the safeties, intehntional fouls etc... hope I will learn that part of the game some fine day. Sure I can runout a couple of racks if the racks open favourably, but so it is with nineball too.

YMMV!
 
weelie said:
You may what you will, but for me personally 9-ball is forever the easier game. I runout, if I don't see a runout, I lay a snooker. That's it.

In 8ball, I never know how to play, as an early runout is difficult due to clusters, and I can never see the patterns I should play, and the runout seems to get more difficult the closer you get to the eight... sooooooooo many times I've attempted a full runout and I fail to get on the eight or the ball before it, due to the other 7 blocker balls. And the safeties, intehntional fouls etc... hope I will learn that part of the game some fine day. Sure I can runout a couple of racks if the racks open favourably, but so it is with nineball too.

YMMV!
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personal preference then i guesse
 
There is a major difference between "a run-out" and a "break-and-run". With ball in hand it's not very difficult to run out in 9-ball. Making one from the break and having position on the one-ball/lowest ball is very difficult in 9-ball. If you make a ball on the 8-ball break, you will have a ball on 95-99% of the time. I've made a four-pack in 8-ball many times without any difficulties, but in 9-ball the end of the "packs" is always the break shot or the following shot...
On an open table without clusters, 8-ball is many times easier than 9-ball. With clusters 8-ball gets a little bit more difficult, but breaking the clusters is still easier than in 9-ball. Playing safe is more difficult in 8-ball, especially if your opponent has all balls on the table. And I think in 9-ball you should lay a snooker when playing safe, but in 8-ball you have many different strategies when playing safe: breaking your own balls from a cluster, setting up a "break ball" for further easy cluster separation etc.
Also, playing position on the wrong side of the object ball doesn't usually matter in 9-ball but can be quite crucial in 8-ball, because there might be more obstacle ball to navigate through...
 
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