i have 2 instroke cases. one i carry everyday , the other i use for storage. they both are used and a little worn. you can see from the pictures the nicer looking one has the bottom feet missing and the pocket calsp. easy fix if you put a little effort in wich i am not lol. the one i carry i have cleaned and ploished since the pictures but still has charector. will sell both for 200 shipped in the us. getting a new one and selling some cases. i also have a 4x8 i will sell for 150 shipped but i don't know who made that one. thanks.