2 shafts question.
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I'm going to watch this thread...I can not really figure out why you would need two shafts to play two different games. I can understand a break cue or even shaft. I have two shafts for my cues...I carry two players with two shafts each and alternate cues and shafts with each match, that way I am used to each and can switch whenever I might need to. But I don't favor one over the other (shaft or cue) to play different games.
Not knocking your theory, I'm interested if there might be a good reason to start such a process in the future.
L8R...Ken
Not knocking your theory, I'm interested if there might be a good reason to start such a process in the future.
L8R...Ken
When I ordered my South West many years ago, I assumed the same thing you are: I should have one shaft for straight pool and one for 9-ball. So I told Jerry to make me one stiff and one with a pro taper. Keep in mind, this was when all cloth was nap style, not the current worsted cloth. I felt the extended taper would make it easier to move the cueball for 9-ball.
However, although I liked both shafts when I got the cue, I found myself using the stiffer shaft more and more for all games. I preferred the stiffer hit and control afforded by the traditional SW parabolic taper. Also, I didn't like having to adjust to the other shaft. No matter how much you try to make them play the same, there are differences in tips and squirt compensation. I also found there just wasn't that much difference in my ability to move the cueball by changing shafts.
So, I say, find a shaft you like and stay with it. If anything, get a second one as near to identical as your first. It won't be the same, but it will require less adjusting if you do need to use it.
However, although I liked both shafts when I got the cue, I found myself using the stiffer shaft more and more for all games. I preferred the stiffer hit and control afforded by the traditional SW parabolic taper. Also, I didn't like having to adjust to the other shaft. No matter how much you try to make them play the same, there are differences in tips and squirt compensation. I also found there just wasn't that much difference in my ability to move the cueball by changing shafts.
So, I say, find a shaft you like and stay with it. If anything, get a second one as near to identical as your first. It won't be the same, but it will require less adjusting if you do need to use it.
This is the first I've really heard of playing different games with different shafts. I can understand the thought of having different hit or feel for different games, but I think I would rather trust one shaft and adjust my speed.
Then again. If it works for you and you are having success doing it. That's great! :thumbup:
Then again. If it works for you and you are having success doing it. That's great! :thumbup:
i guess if you were speaking more technically, or "on paper", to have two shafts would be beneficial for each respective game (considering what is need in one pocket is much different that what is needed in 9ball), but the reality is that a player gets so accustomed to a shaft and its intricacies, that it would be foolish to try and switch between two on the fly like that.
My playing shaft is very stiff and it's great for 1pkt but 9 ball is tuff.
I must add the shaft i play 1hole is about 15 years old and stiff
I'm looking to get a 12.75 pro tapper.
the one i have now is a 13 mm old school parabolick taper....<----( i think the spelling is wrong )...
I must add the shaft i play 1hole is about 15 years old and stiff
I'm looking to get a 12.75 pro tapper.
the one i have now is a 13 mm old school parabolick taper....<----( i think the spelling is wrong )...
Different shafts
I can understand a different shaft for snooker - as the balls are smaller than those used in pocket billiards.
I don't understand different shafts (or cues) for individual games that use the same size ball.
If the C.B and Object Balls are the same size and weight (no matter what game you are playing), different shafts would only seem to introduce more inconsistancy.
Once you learn how to use a particular shaft - it should perform equally well in all games. That's my point of view.
That being said - I might be wrong. Back in the day - 13.5 and 14mm shafts were common. I have been told this is because straight pool (14:1) requires less extreme draw, and more powerful stun or top (on the breaks). Always wondered if this was really true. If so - are today's 14:1 players using thicker shafts? I don't really see them in my area - but I don't see a lot of straight pool either.
I can understand a different shaft for snooker - as the balls are smaller than those used in pocket billiards.
I don't understand different shafts (or cues) for individual games that use the same size ball.
If the C.B and Object Balls are the same size and weight (no matter what game you are playing), different shafts would only seem to introduce more inconsistancy.
Once you learn how to use a particular shaft - it should perform equally well in all games. That's my point of view.
That being said - I might be wrong. Back in the day - 13.5 and 14mm shafts were common. I have been told this is because straight pool (14:1) requires less extreme draw, and more powerful stun or top (on the breaks). Always wondered if this was really true. If so - are today's 14:1 players using thicker shafts? I don't really see them in my area - but I don't see a lot of straight pool either.
In addition to having different shafts for different games, I have a friend who has two identical shafts with different tips. A softer tip for delicate position games (14.1) and a harder tip for more games requiring more power (9 ball).
When I started playing seriously in the early '70s it was common to have one shaft for Straight pool and another for 9 ball. One was a bit smaller diameter than the other but for the life of me, I can't remember which. It seems like the prevailing thought was that you would use the smaller for 9 ball, using more english than playing Straight pool.
Since the late '70s, I've always ordered my shafts the same size and alternate between the two so both will remain playable. I've only ordered a cue with one shaft once, I think, and ordered a second within a week.
I've never heard of anyone who used a specific shaft for One Pocket but I don't see anything wrong with the idea. I currently prefer stiff shafts myself and use the same shafts for all games.
Since the late '70s, I've always ordered my shafts the same size and alternate between the two so both will remain playable. I've only ordered a cue with one shaft once, I think, and ordered a second within a week.
I've never heard of anyone who used a specific shaft for One Pocket but I don't see anything wrong with the idea. I currently prefer stiff shafts myself and use the same shafts for all games.
Thank you guys , I went out to the poolroom to day and tryed a small taper shaft and it played very good I had a little bit more action but it did work good for 9 and 1pkt so i found the shaft i need to play with ....
I think the reason for having two shafts is that when one tip falls off, you can always use the other shaft. But I've also experienced that people like to mix up the tapering depending on how they "feel" on that day. But generally, I think its more for an insurance.
I have the same tips on both shafts but the tapers are not the same by far ....
Some players have a 1P shaft and a 9B shaft, but personally I like both shafts the same, same tips, equal play.
I don't play a lot of 1P but last week I played quite a few games, and there are still 9B-like shots that come up, so I don't get the difference.
I don't play a lot of 1P but last week I played quite a few games, and there are still 9B-like shots that come up, so I don't get the difference.
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or when you break one over someones head.....and the second shaft is for his buddy....save the butt of the cue because that is were all the cash lays.......:thumbup: art play with what you like that is all that matters...
I have a Josie currently. I have 2 shafts. One standard shaft with an Everest on it. And one Timeless Timber shaft with an Everest. I use the standard on normal clothed tables. I use the Timeless shaft on those damn Valleys with the rubber backed cloth. The stiffer, harder hitting Timeless shaft makes it much easier to move the CB around. I don't have to change my game too much on the slow tables with it.
I do not have seperate shafts for different games. I use the shafts for different table conditions.
Mark Shuman
I do not have seperate shafts for different games. I use the shafts for different table conditions.
Mark Shuman
I use 2 shafts:
o I have one shaft for 8 ball or 9 ball, 11.75mm Kamui.
o I have one shaft for 1P and Bank Pool, 13mm LePro.
I use the LePro shaft more for the nostalgia (as its the same tip I used growing up learning the game.) Its "remembered" comfort to me. Nothing is better for my relaxation than shooting 1P or Banks with older seniors at the local pool hall. Kinda like using a 5 wood instead of a hybrid for a golf shot IMO.
~Roy:thumbup:
o I have one shaft for 8 ball or 9 ball, 11.75mm Kamui.
o I have one shaft for 1P and Bank Pool, 13mm LePro.
I use the LePro shaft more for the nostalgia (as its the same tip I used growing up learning the game.) Its "remembered" comfort to me. Nothing is better for my relaxation than shooting 1P or Banks with older seniors at the local pool hall. Kinda like using a 5 wood instead of a hybrid for a golf shot IMO.
~Roy:thumbup: