20 pointer with ivory points

bruin70 said:
nippon....it's "craig" peterson.

i prefer veneers. i think their tougher to make WELL,,,, ie. hiding the mitered lines.

with today's machinery, i don't think it's difficult to splice point into point. all these cuemakers were machinists and dealt with 1/100000th" tolerances,,,accuracy is not a problem then. it would be a different story if cuemakers today were still building cues in the archaic manner that craig did. craig was, by far,THE BEST four point four veneer cuemaker in the business.

sycamore is what they use to make veneers, and though i don't know what the integral strength of sycamore is, i don't think it compromises the cue. i'd be interested to hear, though. if that were the case, tad, gutierrez, and other cuemakers who have great integrity would've stopped using sycamore veneers long ago. tad, in fact, used to be of the opinion that too much birdseye figuring was bad for maple since birdseye is essentially a diseased wood. so what's ok with him is ok with me.

I typed "Graig," I am sorry. I stand corrected. It should be "Craig." Glad you and everyone here know whom I was referring to anyway. Thank you.

I am not here to defend the idea of re-cut points--I am here to post pictures of a cue for everyone to enjoy, and to describe the cue according to the way Judd described it.

I like the look of re-cut points. I do not know which one is more difficult to make.

Speaking of Ernie, it is also Ernie's belief that he should bore all his ebony forearm and cored it with maple. Judd does not like coring, either does Joey Gold. Is Ernie's cues the most solid hitting in the world? Should everyone else makes cues the way Ernie make his?

I like the hit of Cognoscenti, and he uses CNC; Ernie does half spliced; and Joey Hercek uses full spliced. Maybe Tad does not like too many birdseye, but Reyes likes the hit of his Judd made from this "disceased" wood just fine.

To have a wide spectrum of cues in various art form makes the cue making world exciting and fanscinating. I like to appreciate different cues with an open mind because the variations is one of the reasons why I was attracted to cues in the first place.

Thank you.

Richard
 
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nipponbilliards said:
I typed "Graig," I am sorry. I stand corrected. It should be "Craig." Glad you and everyone here know whom I was referring to anyway. Thank you.
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To have a wide spectrum of cues in various art form makes the cue making world exciting and fanscinating. I like to appreciate different cues with an open mind because the variations is one of the reasons why I was attracted to cues in the first place.

Thank you.

Richard

as you clearly demonstrated, everyone is of a different opinion. with so much diversity, and all of them making playable cues, then everyone is right and no one is wrong.

therefore, i have a problem when someone like judd proclaims that veneer wood compromise the integrity of a cue. he is merely hyping his product, as far as i'm concerned.

lots of cuemakers bore their forearms. that's the great thing about cuemaking today. the machinery allows a cuemaker to do virtually anything he wants. decades ago, if you wanted an ebony cue, you ended up with a sledgehammer that had a funny ping sound.
 
bruin70 said:
as you clearly demonstrated, everyone is of a different opinion. with so much diversity, and all of them making playable cues, then everyone is right and no one is wrong.

therefore, i have a problem when someone like judd proclaims that veneer wood compromise the integrity of a cue. he is merely hyping his product, as far as i'm concerned.

lots of cuemakers bore their forearms. that's the great thing about cuemaking today. the machinery allows a cuemaker to do virtually anything he wants. decades ago, if you wanted an ebony cue, you ended up with a sledgehammer that had a funny ping sound.

I see what you are saying. But I have to tell you I am not in a position to agrue with you about the veneers issue because I was only stating Judd's opinion.

May be Judd was hyping himself; may be he just did not want to do something he did not feel right about.

I have a great deal of repect for Judd, whether I agree with his method or not, I respect him for the integrity he has displayed.

Richard
 
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nipponbilliards said:
I see what you are saying. But I have to tell you I am not in a position to agrue with you about the veneers issue because I was only stating Judd's opinion.

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I have a great deal of repect for Judd, whether I agree with his method or not, I respect him for the integrity he has displayed.

Richard

yes, because "integrity" is a personal principle that one holds oneself to. i'm sure that is both judd's and ernie's value of their beliefs. as is tad's about birdseye figuring.

you and i,,,we have our own, and that is the criteria we use when we buy a cue.

mine are based on many many talks i had with craig. at that point, i was a novice about cuemaking. i still am(i don't know its intricacies and i don't build cues). but much of what i expect from a cuemaker comes from what craig put into his. the rest of my "philosophy" comes from my being an artist.
 
bruin70 said:
yes, because "integrity" is a personal principle that one holds oneself to. i'm sure that is both judd's and ernie's value of their beliefs. as is tad's about birdseye figuring.

you and i,,,we have our own, and that is the criteria we use when we buy a cue.

mine are based on many many talks i had with craig. at that point, i was a novice about cuemaking. i still am(i don't know its intricacies and i don't build cues). but much of what i expect from a cuemaker comes from what craig put into his. the rest of my "philosophy" comes from my being an artist.

You are very fortunate to have the chance to speak with Craig. I am always trying to learn more about cues and cue making because I believe knowledge is power--to acquire such knowledge first hand from a master is especially precious.
 
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