Top finishes where?
2016 World 9-Ball Championship
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I agree with that but Yukio also won this event before and didn't get out of qualifiers if I'm not mistaken
Top finishes in the us absolutely for busty. Off the top of my head he got 4th in that 16 player 8ball 1k entry he got 2nd in west coast challenge 10 ball he finished high (2/3 )in one of those big entry one pocket tourneys 2nd in the Cole Dickson n like 5-8 in the us open 8 ball. So yea idk too many tournaments he's played that he hasn't done well in recently.
Regional events and small bar box tournaments arent looked at the same as the big boy events. Per wpa website, he only played in 3 tournaments since the start dcc last year and didnt fair well in any of them. Currently ranked 68th, theres a reason why efren and busty choose not to pay the expense to go through qualifiers.
That would be great! It's a sad day for pool when we can't even watch the World 9-Ball Championship.
Lmfao all those tournaments you just mentioned are not 9-ball.
Thats like Tony Chohan winning the Joe Schmoe One-Pocket Championship and getting an invite to the world 9 ball championship. Doesn't work that way.
There isn't too many "big" 9foot 9 ball tournaments In The US so him not doing well in 9ball on @9ft shouldn't equate to him not qualifying. I imagine he's spent the majority of his time in the US this year so He didn't have the option to compete in 9ft 9ball. The tournaments in America readily available were the "pro" one pocket 8 ball n 10ball n a few bar box 9ball and he did about as God overall as anyone else playing the same American "tour". What I'm saying is he's been a top player for about 30 years and this year he's look better than he has in awhile so I'm surprised he isn't playing. I'm not into debating u ur opinion is just that but I believe had he played he would of had a good chance to get deep in the tournament especially having the wisdom and experience he has. But he's not playing so we will never know.
Speaking of having a great year I almost expect Dennis Orcollo to win this tournament. The last few months in the American tournaments he's looked more consistant and focused and unbeatable than ever.
Speaking of having a great year I almost expect Dennis Orcollo to win this tournament. The last few months in the American tournaments he's looked more consistant and focused and unbeatable than ever.
He didn't have the option? There's a reason why he'd rather hang out around the us playing these bar box and regional tournament . He knows he can't compete abroad or he'd never leave his country . He gets a spot from the young guns on a regular in the phillipines and games. I agree he is a legend and has played better this year than he past 10 but that doesn't mean he can compete and make a living abroad. Us has easier money for him at this point in his career. He knows he wouldn't let out of day two
So why do all the young guns that "can compete" in their home country all leave? It's obviously not because they can't compete. It's because the United States is where the most money is and its not directly correlated with soft level or easier competition. It's the fact that there's tournaments all the time yes some are smaller regional events but also maybe twice a month there are tournaments with multiple world class players serious prize funds. Not to mention the added fame and prestige a winning player receives globally doing well in America. So again to say that just because bustamante hasn't done well in 9 foot 9 ball recently he shouldn't qualify is ridiculous because he's doing more then well competeting regularly in the US. It's not his fault the tournaments worth playing in America vary in game n currently among the professional caliber tournaments 9 ball is the least popular. The fact that he's competing in the 16 men multiple thousand dollar entry tournaments and placing/cashing should tell u the current level his game is regardless of of its 9ball one pocket 10 ball 8 ball barbox. If he's competing n beating other professional caliber players it should reflect in his rank. I believe if 128 people play in the tournament bustamante should of been selected to play without the need to qualify. Is he in the top 10 no but is he not in the top 128? Again I'm aware his recent accomplishments weren't 9 ball n this is the world 9 ball but when ur in America n the tournaments worth playing are other games he's going to play them and to me since he's recently done well in those tournaments it should hold some weight in the qualification. It's not like he's a one pocket specialist and has won a few one pocket tournaments he's well rounded and has placed in multiple different disciplines among world class players.
You're right. They should've invited Ronnie O'Sullivan too.
Ok so they leave to the us because they can't compete? Nope it's because they're playing against the same if not stronger players than the us. And do some homework. Aside from the snooker, the most money in pool is in Chinese 8 ball. It's visa issues that keep most home .
I think you misunderstood his point. His point was that the young guns who can compete DO leave the country to compete (when they can get visas), presumably for money and prestige. Is that not the case? If it is, then I don't see why it is a knock against Busty that he is competing in the US.
By the way, I accept that he no longer plays as strong as some of the top Pinoys, but I still think he plays world class speed and is a threat to go deep in a strong field.
Do some homework? Lol u act like I'm debating u using facts I read somewhere. I know what I'm talking about and obviously the language barrier is negatively affecting ur ability to see my point. I didn't say any one particular tournament has more money then one snooker tournament or Chinese 8 ball. That's apples n oranges I said the most money in the us I thought it was assumed I was only talking about pool since this is a pool forum and were talking about a pool player. Anyway the fact remains there is ample opportunity to win money in the US plus the fame a player receives is exponentially better when winning tournaments on American soil. And like the guy before me already stated I was saying that u said busty left because he can't compete with the young guns, so I asked why do u think the young guns leave? It's pretty apparent that everyone's goal is to come to America n were in agreement on that so busty is in America for all of those reason more so than because he can't compete back home. Unfortunately I think no matter how I broke things down or how crystal clear my points are you would still disagree or try to take a shot at me so I'm done with this and I'm not like busty a number one fan I was surprised he wasn't playing because he's had a great year compared to past years. Either way thanks for the discussion it was quite riveting
Alright bud , if I took a shot, my fault . I love a healthy debate.
I suspect the truth is that for the pro's they need to play in as many high profile tournaments as possible, some are in the US, some in Europe and some in Asia. There isn't a mass of sponsorship in pool so many pro's need to play all over the world regardless of where they were born.
It's all good now if I could only get kris to present his side we would really have a nice debate goin. Unfortunately I sense he's not clever enough to understand what we're talking about so even after I talked about busty being a well rounded player succeeding at multiple different games he throws out Ronnie o Sullivan as a joke not realizing that a. Multiple snooker players have played in this tournament in previous years and b. He's the epitome of a specialist
LOL. since 2014, world champion Yukio Akagariyama go through the qualifying stages.
good thing is that he got in yesterday after winning all matches in the last chance stage of the qualifiers.
here are the 12 qualifiers:
1st chance (won all matches):
Jeffrey Ignacio (Philippines)
Hijikata Hayato (Japan)
Tohru Kuribayashi (Japan)
Jeffrey De Luna (Philippines)
2nd chance (1 loss):
Wu Kun Lin (Chinese Taipei)
Ramil Gallego (Philippines)
Bruno Muratore (Italy)
Roberto Gomez (Philippines)
3rd chance (2 losses):
Hiroshi Takenaka (Japan)
Yukio Akagariyama (Japan)
Tyoji Aoki (Japan)
Rogelio Sotero Jr. (Philippines)
1st chance (won all matches):
Jeffrey Ignacio (Philippines)
Hijikata Hayato (Japan)
Tohru Kuribayashi (Japan)
Jeffrey De Luna (Philippines)
2nd chance (1 loss):
Wu Kun Lin (Chinese Taipei)
Ramil Gallego (Philippines)
Bruno Muratore (Italy)
Roberto Gomez (Philippines)
3rd chance (2 losses):
Hiroshi Takenaka (Japan)
Yukio Akagariyama (Japan)
Tyoji Aoki (Japan)
Rogelio Sotero Jr. (Philippines)
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The brackets are up now here: http://www.online-brackets.com/view/user/wpc9ball
16 groups of 8, for 128 players total. The groups of 8 are double elimination races to 9. They stop when 4 players have been eliminated from each group of 8.
Next the remaining 64 play one large single elimination bracket, races to 11. The finals is a race to 13.
All alternating break, 9 on the spot, 3 balls past the head string.
16 groups of 8, for 128 players total. The groups of 8 are double elimination races to 9. They stop when 4 players have been eliminated from each group of 8.
Next the remaining 64 play one large single elimination bracket, races to 11. The finals is a race to 13.
All alternating break, 9 on the spot, 3 balls past the head string.
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