$25,000 -2nd Annual BCAPL Eastern Championships! March 5-9th 2014

Men's 8 Ball is now full since we had limited seniors sign up...the 9ball men's event is at 102 players with only 26 spots to go with entries coming in daily still. other stats are below with the end of the week being the deadline.

Men 8Ball- 128 players (FULL)
Men 9Ball- 102 players max 128

Men Team- 35 teams signed up max 64

Women 8ball- 32 players max 64
women 9ball- 16 players max 32
women team- 13 teams- max 32


Right now we have 300 players signed up for the event...Friday is the deadline...call/email with rosters and paying through paypal will guarantee your spot.
 
player list

What list will you be checking for the the top 125 PRO player listings? Looks like a few of the players listed for 8 ball are on the top 125 AZ player listings. Am I correct in thinking that you will not let them play since you posted NO Grand Master or Pro Players (Top 125 Listed) on the first post for the tournament?
 
culookn said:
What list will you be checking for the the top 125 PRO player listings? Looks like a few of the players listed for 8 ball are on the top 125 AZ player listings. Am I correct in thinking that you will not let them play since you posted NO Grand Master or Pro Players (Top 125 Listed) on the first post for the tournament?
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where is the list at?
 
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culookn said:
Some players that are listed in the 128 man 8 ball list that was posted this week has names that show up on both lists and other players show up on one and not the other so I was wondering what list the tournament director was looking at. I did not know if the tournament director was looking at...

the BCA top 125... http://www.azbilliards.com/tours_and_events/bca-ranking/

or the AZ top 125... http://www.azbilliards.com/people/azb-money-leaderboard/2014/all/
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where is the player's list for this year's event? you said there were some players in the top 125 on that list.
 
sorry, it was posted on the Corner pocket and cafe facebook page this week. Here it is from Tuesday...

Brian Lambert
Billy Blake
Joel Weimer
Jeff Ludwig
Joey Arbuckle
Jarrod Grafdious
Dan havens
Mark sambuco
Ryan Ellifritz
Joe Healy
Bill bitteneger
Walt Rogowski
Eugene Baker
Tony Byrd
Harold Mckoy
Stan Weister
Mike Moody
Daniel Clark
allen Parrack
Don Blevins jr
Jeff Mccarty
Jeff Harness
kurt England
brian frank
Shane lykins
Mario heruvia
Chad Fairchild
Rodney Guthrie
Chuck Norris
William Bickford
Joseph wright
Mark Rockwell
Lester turner
Nathan Thomas
Tony Columbus
Mike newland
Ray Mcnabb
Chris Frederick
Sage freeman
Gary Kline
Jack Burkman
Chris shepherd
Dee Atkins
Steve Booth
Steve rose
Michael Dunn
Willy conkle
Roy Rife
Chris dininger
Adam Martin
Ron Kirkpatrick
Corey ebersole
Robert McKinney III
Robert McKinney jr
Marc paul
Craig eddy
Anthony long
Rusty todd
Joe Feuka
Virgil Watkins
Michael Watkins
Justin smith
Dustin smith
Scott Stephens
Mike Hafer
Buzz jones
Chuck thurnall
Adam hale
Mark tritask
Brian bowman
Chuck benson
Joe lasley
Jordon grubb
Dj holloway
Alex Olinger
Luke Hawkins
Dale eury
Mike Cantrell
Terry Miller
John maki
Jerry Endsley
Mike Cumberledge
Chris Mitchell
Dan Martino
Frank prazenica jr
Bj williams
Dick Barnes
Butch Weimer
Dan trogdon
Doug Tennant
Don Blevins sr
Jack Bailey
Rick shoop
Jim spinelli
Bob wilson
Roger Riley
Mike sells
Ed Brooks
Marvin Collins
Bill Lyle
Art Haynes
Kevin young
Al Greco
Chuck doty
Chuck Tuttle
Brad shultz
Lonnie eslinger
Kenneth Kuhn jr
Aut fry
Chad Spano
Jason shepherd
Mike savage
Babe Hanna
Michael zickefoose
Josh Staskey
Joey ivock
David Hollowell
Jerry Shepard
Tom kahl
William shiflett
Bobby Hibbitts
Danny mulhollen
Jeff hilton
Jerry hager
Tracy spurrier
John oderizzi
Dan d'angelo
Josh Bliss.
 
I agree with culookn.

According to your rules there are two players that should not be competing in this tournament.

Last year masters and above were supposed to spot the field 2 games and when we show up the rules were changed to even.

This is the biggest complaint that happens to tournaments. Once you start excepting entries rules cannot be changed unless voted by the players who have already paid.

I'm bringing seven guys with me. Can we be reimbursed for our money for all events since your are letting some of the top 125 players in?
 
Who are the 2 players? Alex Olinger and Dee Atkins?

Alex is an Advanced player and not even a master in BCA

Dee is a master - yes great 1pocket player and past pro...he is nothing he was before his accidents...he played last year-and placed 4th - 8ball, and around there in 9ball.

Show me where they are listed as pros ranked under 120. As for a refund, let me know...I will be glad to give your money back as I have a waiting list.
 
i was actually trying to find that BCA list on AZ but couldn't find it before...I am checking into that now...I know of one person regardless that will not be allowed and that is Billy thorpe...I will review all info now...
 
I agree. If I would have known about these players before I paid, I would have never taken off of work and drive several hours to play against these players. I would ask for my money back but I already took off of work. I thought all players were going to be checked . I know of a few guys that are playing on the same team that are masters and I was pissed after they told me but it is too late now. It will not happen next year.
 
Rankings

CULOOKN- Thanks for that BCA Rankings...the sheet I had didnt have the indepth of names..I still cant find the list while searching on AZ but obviously go directly to the link you posted...

There are only 2 names in the entire tournament that are on this list and that is billy thorpe and david grossman...

Alex Olinger has met the guideline as being TIED for 117 to make him ranked 121 overall.

If you see any other names I may have missed please let me know...we are trying to make this the best event of the region and it is tough work. Thanks for all the input...I try to please everyone...just not easy.
 
AGAIN, I have checked the teams...There are no 2 masters on a team...if you believe there is then just tell me the players and not complain about it...this is a regional event, you are going to get GOOD PLAYERS & GREAT PLAYERS....they practice and they work at their game...This is a sport just like any other and we are trying to have an event that will benefit everyone here...I pay out more than any tournament you can think of in this country...I do not take all the money for myself like all the rest or even the nationals...if you want your money back send me the email and I will refund your money and have the hotel give you money back...very simple...if you think you are going to get into an event and play bums it will never happen...I thank everyone for their input not their criticism for complaining. Give me logic details and they will be looked at...

BTW- Last year was changed so we could finish the event...the casino screwed us over on the additional space. We needed to change races and format to finish. This year is different and should be a great event...I hope to see everyone there that has signed up for this experience..
 
I will be calling you tomorrow for refunds.

And you can't just go off of the bca rankings. There was only 7 bca events in 2013. So hypothetically speaking a player could win the US open 9-ball championship and still be able the play in your event because it wasn't sanctioned and ranked by the bca.

You need to cross reference several different lists to determine who are the tops pros.

Hopefully you get the bugs worked out in the future.

As far as changing the format last year because of the casino, there is no excuse for changing it without the majority of players agreeing. We signed up for an event and when we arrived the event has changed. It's unacceptable.

How would feel if you booked an all exclusive vacation and when you show up they tell that food and drinks are not included anymore due to then being screwed by the food and beverage distributor? You would feel cheated. It's the same feeling players felt last year and if this event keeps,growing your going to get alot of "pros" not on the bca list robbing the league players your whole event is based on.
 
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Again Braveheart...HOW ARE THE PLAYERS that you are discussing? I do cross reference...VNEA is a joke on rankings...NAPA makes A players of 90 ranking masters...BCA is the best ranking...I keep the top players out...If you want out and a refund...just post your name, team name, and players you want the money back from...I will be glad to do NOW...I'm not waiting till the day of the event...no refunds if tomorrow..
 
The BCA points are down the bottom of the AZ home page. Sorry, I did not mean for all the kaos to start over the player list I just was asking the questions after I saw Alex Olnger on the front page of AZ for winning a Midwest 9 ball tournament and also for him placing in the money at the US Bar Table championships last week. He finished 9-12 in 8 ball and 17-24 in 9 ball playing against the best players in the world on bar tables. He beat Justin Bergman and Hunter Lombardo in 8 ball. Here is what I am referring to that I saw on the home page middle of last week...

http://www.azbilliards.com/news/sto...o-go-undefeated-in-midwest-9-ball-open-event/

Here are the US bartable results...

http://www.ctsondemand.com/BracketViewer.aspx?BracketID=36afde0d-3f68-40c0-96cf-51cae6945ed1

http://www.ctsondemand.com/BracketViewer.aspx?BracketID=36afde0d-3f68-40c0-96cf-51cae6945ed1

He is now 39th on AZ money list... http://www.azbilliards.com/people/6485-alex-olinger/

I will be going no matter what. The better the players just means the faster I get to heavy beer drinking. I just wanted to know how many cases to bring with me on Wednesday...
 
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can someone post a players list for the 9 ball as well? I promise, I won't complain, just want to make sure I'm on it.:thumbup:
 
9 ball

This is off the facebook page from a few days ago..

Joel Weimer
Brian Lambert
Jeff Ludwig
Joey Arbuckle
buz jones
Jarod Graffius
Dan Hagens
Ryan Ellifritz
Joe Healy
Bill Bittenger
Walt Rogowski
Eugene Baker
Tony Byrd
Harold McKoy
Stan Weister
Romney Hanna
Allen Parrack
Don Blevins Jr
jeff McCarty
Jeff Harness
Kurt England
Rodney parsons
Shane Lykins
Mario Herevia
Chuck Norris
William Bickford
Joseph Wright
Mark Rockwell
nathan Thomas
Lester Turner
jack Burkman
Chris Shepherd
Dee Atkins
Steve Booth
Michael dunn
Steve Rose
Willy Conkle
Roy Rife
Chris Chilli Cantplayalick Dininger
Adam Martin
Robert McKinney III
Robert McKinney JR
marc Paul
Craig Eddy
Anothony Long
Jerry Hager
Joe Feuko
Virgil Watkins
Michael Watkins
Mike Hafer
Jordan Grubb
Dj Derrick Holloway
Alex Olinger
Luke Hawkins
Mike Cantrell
Scott Stephens
Jim Udischus
Jerry Endsley
Mike Cumberledge
Mike Haglock
Dick Barnes
Butch Weimer
Bob Crepp
Dan Trogdon
Don Blevins SR
Bob Wilson
Roger Riley
Kevin Young
Al Greco
Chuck Doty
Aut Fry
Chad Spano
Jason Shepherd
Skip Shumate
Shawn Perkins
mark Sambuco
Josh Staskey
David Hollowell
Jerry Shepard
Tom Kahl
William Shiflett
Bobby Hibbitts
Dave Williams
Dan D'Angelo
Travis Warden
Pat Patrick OBrien
Rod Day
Cliff Harness
Tracy Spurrier
Bj Warner
Mike Savage
Joey Ivock
Danny Mulhollen
Jason Hicks
Anthony Kerr
Steve Titino
Rich Persinger
Gary Kline
Misha Ivanenko
Frank Binck
Brent Canine
Billy Pinion
Steve Erskine
Cameron Gower
Brandon Frazier
Dave Shrewsbury
 
I finally found the list you posted...on the bottom of the front page...Alex is by far a strong player and still only an Advanced player some how on BCA list and ranked 122 with the tie on the BCA Standings...I do not count the money list...that is all chump change unless you are top notch pro...he comes and plays at my pool hall and has one 1x and not cashed 3x while placing the other times in the money...Dee Atkins is great as well yet didn't win last year and only place 3rd place. I have turned down many players for this event that were on the list and ranked as a grand master or top 120 pro.

Players will always be up and coming or experienced yet not be at that level not allowed per requirements...as it stands now, Dee and Alex will both not be allowed in Next years event...only because I know they will have reached the standard above everyone else in the event.

I hope everyone has a great time...it is hard work to put this together and pay out over $40,000. I can only say it will only get better each year.
 
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