2nd Generation X Breaker launch at Valley Forge

I hit with the xbreaker at the show and have this to say,I usually break like crap and dont jump much.I have bought and tried predator,gulassey,gilbert and i dont know how this xbreaker works technically speaking but it broke like a cannon and it jumps like no other.With out even trying the cue ball jumped half the table with just a tap!One girl I watched try jumping with it and she was hitting the ball the lenght of the table and 4 ft up in the banner behind the table ,it was funny.The only draw back is the price,but I think it is the best I've hit with.JMO
 
Do the new X-breakers have the pin numbered? Do they continue from the old generation or start with new numbers? This new Xbreaker, does it have any new technology in the butt section? If not can 1st gen owners buy a new shaft? I ask this because I love my 1st gen XB but can't warrant the purchase of an entirely new break cue after only having the xbreaker for a few month's. Would the maximizer be beneficial to the older gen? Lastly, out of curiosity, is the new tip an improved old one, or is it something completely new?
 
Hello Richard

How is the tip improved over the original x-breaker?
I have only had it for 1 month and cannot buy a new cue either.

BTW. I do not want to use PenPal as it asks the users(buyers/sellers) to forfeit their rights, so I will send you either a money order or cheque. I will check my work email tomorrow for your answer.
Looking forward to trying the maximizer.
 
Richard,

Do you recommend getting the xbreaker with the grip or without? Why?

Are joint protectors available?

Is the cue warranteed against warpage?

I believe I read in another thread that an xbreaker owner had problems with the finish of the cue, particularly the rings --- are there warranties against manufacture defects and have you had any of these cases reported?

Lastly, are there any new colors going to be released soon?

thanks!
 
Wolven said:
Hello Richard

How is the tip improved over the original x-breaker?
I have only had it for 1 month and cannot buy a new cue either.

BTW. I do not want to use PenPal as it asks the users(buyers/sellers) to forfeit their rights, so I will send you either a money order or cheque. I will check my work email tomorrow for your answer.
Looking forward to trying the maximizer.

The tip is constructed and composed a bit differently but there is no need for you to buy a new cue for the tip.

I only accept Paypal.

For individual questions, please email me at info@xtremebilliard.com.

Thank you for choosing the X Breaker.:)

Richard
 
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raemondo said:
Richard,

Do you recommend getting the xbreaker with the grip or without? Why?

Are joint protectors available?

Is the cue warranteed against warpage?

Are there warranties against manufacture defects and have you had any of these cases reported?

Lastly, are there any new colors going to be released soon?

thanks!
By grip, do you mean with wrap or without wrap? It is a highly individual choice. I suggest you try both to see which one would work better for you.

Please visit my site to read the page on warranty. I offer life time warranty on the X Breaker, details are listed on my site.

For more questions, please email me at info@xtremebilliard.com

Thank you.

Richard
 
Richard,

I own an X-Breaker and think it's fantastic. This reply has nothing whatsoever to do with X-Breaker. It has to do with what you are claiming is acceptable with respect to claims versus evidence.

You are dead wrong on two key points:

1) The onus is ALWAYS on the person MAKING the claim to back it up with evidence, not the other way around. If I tell you that taking 2000 milligrams of Vitamin C every day for 2 months cures cancer, I'd better show you a clinical study that tested that claim and offers supporting evidence. I can't just tell you it's true and say "Hey it's true, so let's start giving Vitamin C to our cancer patients, until someone can disprove me." That's not how it works.

2) When a company DOES offer data for the public to see, there is always a chance that the data could be accurate, or incomplete, or misleading. But it's "out there" to be examined, discussed, refuted. And that is ALWAYS superior to someone who makes a claim and then tells people that he has evidence but won't share it.

If your competition offers data that is misleading, you can comment on their data. The public can examine the data. They can come to a conclusion. Maybe the conclusion is that the claim was unsupported. That's better than "There's no way to know"

Once again, this has nothing to do with the X-Breaker. It has to do with the general principal of how people make claims and support them. I'm not especially concerned if you post any data about the X-Breaker, I'll just try the second generation cue and see if I like it. But please don't try to convince the world that it's okay for people to make claims and accept them blindly, because that's something that already happens way, way too much in this world... for better or for worse.
 
shinobi said:
Richard,

I own an X-Breaker and think it's fantastic. This reply has nothing whatsoever to do with X-Breaker. It has to do with what you are claiming is acceptable with respect to claims versus evidence.

You are dead wrong on two key points:

1) The onus is ALWAYS on the person MAKING the claim to back it up with evidence, not the other way around. If I tell you that taking 2000 milligrams of Vitamin C every day for 2 months cures cancer, I'd better show you a clinical study that tested that claim and offers supporting evidence. I can't just tell you it's true and say "Hey it's true, so let's start giving Vitamin C to our cancer patients, until someone can disprove me." That's not how it works.

2) When a company DOES offer data for the public to see, there is always a chance that the data could be accurate, or incomplete, or misleading. But it's "out there" to be examined, discussed, refuted. And that is ALWAYS superior to someone who makes a claim and then tells people that he has evidence but won't share it.

If your competition offers data that is misleading, you can comment on their data. The public can examine the data. They can come to a conclusion. Maybe the conclusion is that the claim was unsupported. That's better than "There's no way to know"

Once again, this has nothing to do with the X-Breaker. It has to do with the general principal of how people make claims and support them. I'm not especially concerned if you post any data about the X-Breaker, I'll just try the second generation cue and see if I like it. But please don't try to convince the world that it's okay for people to make claims and accept them blindly, because that's something that already happens way, way too much in this world... for better or for worse.


Hey that sounds good, but do you have any data that shows you are right on this?
 
shinobi said:
Richard,

I own an X-Breaker and think it's fantastic. This reply has nothing whatsoever to do with X-Breaker. It has to do with what you are claiming is acceptable with respect to claims versus evidence.

You are dead wrong on two key points:

1) The onus is ALWAYS on the person MAKING the claim to back it up with evidence, not the other way around. If I tell you that taking 2000 milligrams of Vitamin C every day for 2 months cures cancer, I'd better show you a clinical study that tested that claim and offers supporting evidence. I can't just tell you it's true and say "Hey it's true, so let's start giving Vitamin C to our cancer patients, until someone can disprove me." That's not how it works.

2) When a company DOES offer data for the public to see, there is always a chance that the data could be accurate, or incomplete, or misleading. But it's "out there" to be examined, discussed, refuted. And that is ALWAYS superior to someone who makes a claim and then tells people that he has evidence but won't share it.

If your competition offers data that is misleading, you can comment on their data. The public can examine the data. They can come to a conclusion. Maybe the conclusion is that the claim was unsupported. That's better than "There's no way to know"

Once again, this has nothing to do with the X-Breaker. It has to do with the general principal of how people make claims and support them. I'm not especially concerned if you post any data about the X-Breaker, I'll just try the second generation cue and see if I like it. But please don't try to convince the world that it's okay for people to make claims and accept them blindly, because that's something that already happens way, way too much in this world... for better or for worse.


We ARE responsible for what we say. Ask Fast Larry. George W. is still looking for those elusive Weapons of Mass Destruction. Many of us are still waiting for the check that's in the mail.

Nipponbilliards stated in this thread that he was NOT interested in marketing his product. His countless posts and myriad unsubstantiated claims make that statement incredible. When asked for data supporting his claims his responce is "just try it".

"Just try it" is the core of the marketing plan. It makes sense. Stick to it and forget the BULLSHEET. Don't treat use like a bunch of idiots who cannot question claims. Nipponbilliards should learn that if claims cannot be proven they should not be made. Nipponbilliards will be more successfull if they formulate and stick to a marketing plan that is based on fact and not hyperbolie.

In closing I'm going to "JUST TRY IT":D
 
Enzo as Richard, it's finally over!

nipponbilliards said:
I am here to answer questions from those who are interested to know more about the X Breaker. I will not spend my time entertain uneducated and ungrounded accusation toward me, the X Breaker, or Xtreme Billiard Concepts regarding misrepresentation. The responsibility of charging me for misrepresentation lies in the person who makes the accusation.

Just because someone does not understand why certain thing can do what it can does not mean it is a lie, and just because I am not prepared to enter into a fight with a person who is simply looking for a fight for the sake of having a fight does not mean I do not know what I am talking about.

The maXimizer can keep the tip in contact with the cue ball longer.

For those of you who have a X Breaker, I recommend that you try to break with the X Breaker without the maXimizer, and pay attention to the vibration on the shaft and the control you get on the cue ball. The MaXimizer does much more than just reducing vibration. It is a very new concept and I am working on putting forth a very easy to understand explaination. It is actually not a Limbsaver.

Try close your eyes, and listen to the sound the cue makes during contact. The hit is not dampened, it is actually intensified.

During the Expo, a lot of cue makers and companies have come to my booth trying out my cue. One big company which loves to use data to back its claims came and checked out my taper, and all sorts of things. They also wanted to buy one of my cue, their chief operating officer came to take my catalogues without asking me.

They acted so insecured and threatened it was actually very funny. The funniest part was that they kept trying to tell me they did not think we were competitions, and yet at the same time they were showing a lot of interests in the X Breaker.

I paid a visit to their booth the next day to return the favor, and the chief officer told his staff not to tell me anything about their cues.

One of his staff said when people loved the X Breaker because they could make more balls off the break, they were wrong.

He said they needed to be educated! I guess what he meant was everyone should only pay attention to a certain squirt percentage, even if it does nothing impressive to their break in terms of power and control.

They had a very fancy booth, with radar gun, lots of stuff, and what have you. Nevertheless, I have so many customors came to my booth after they tried their cue, and told me they loved the X Breaker and they wanted to buy one.

I think I should thank them, because it was even more obvious how good the X Breaker was when being compared to their product.

I know someone is very interested to know how I came up with my design and I am not about to disclose any of it.

A lot of people like to see figures and data and numbers, without really knowing how the numbers were obtained and how meaningful those numbers really are.

I think the company which has tried to use number as an "objective" measure to measure the performance of a cue has done more bad to pool in the last ten years than it has done to promote the game.

I can tell you folks right now power and control are very important but control should not be measured solely in terms of "deflection." They can offer any data and theory they want but the truth is their breaking cue does not offer the control that mine offers.

Speed is important but the speed obtained by a robot who does not drop its elbow, who makes the same effort to swing the cue be it 12 oz or 35 oz, is totally meaningless for those who wants to use these data to determine if a certain cue will break "better."

A lot of people kick their legs, raised their bodies, turned their shoulders, tighten their grips...how do you use a robot to duplicate that?

Without understanding the true dynamite of the break, these robotic data is, in my opinion, a set of data skewed to prove a point to make a sale.

In a nutshell, if these tests and data were really so meaningful, a breaking cue manufactured as a result of these tests should be better than anything else...but it simply is not!!! The first generation from this company was not great, and either is this second generation!

Instead of saying may be their approach is wrong, they think their customers are wrong and need to be educated. Therefore, more meaningless tests were done, more data were presented, and more misinformed customers went to make their purchase just to be disappointed.

That is why I think they have done more harm than good to pool.

We pride ourselves as being a revolutionary company(i.e. a real revolutionary company; not one which sells the same product for the last ten years), and we do not like to be associated in any way with a company which has used meaningless data and statistic to misinform its customers in order to make a sales for over ten years.

Therefore, it has been our policy from the very beginning that we will try our best to differentiate ourselves from such a company.

This company does not know much about cues, they think a certain percentage is the key to a good cue.

I will not use this approach. My customers trusted me and I will try my best never to violate that trust.

If you want unrealistic data and stats, please go to the other companies.

In Xtreme Billiards, we offer a real cue, with real performance. We have found a secret to a good breaking cue that no one has found before, and we are here to offer you this secret weapon.

With the X Breaker, you do not need to be "re educated"; you try it, and you will know why it is better. No skewed data and unrealistic robotic test will be used to "educate" you.

When you look at a "Mona Lisa", you do not need data showing a certain squirt percentage to convince you that it is a master piece, do you?

On the other hand, these guys who have no talent to build a master piece can try their darest to come up with all kinds of test, data, use their computer and robot and what not...but they will never be able to build a master piece, as shown in this venture they started more than a year ago with their "new" breaking cue.

Please do not ask me to advertise the X Breaker the way they do, I am way ahead of them in case you dont realize.

Richard

My interpretation:

"I am here to advertise my product for free, I will only answer nice, easy questions about my product. If you want answers to back up specific claims I have made, well, you've come to the wrong place.

Even though I have made claims that would require data to back them up, i feel data is really only for idiots who make cues that don't hit as good as mine.

These questions posed to me are uneducated, I am highly educated and I would know the difference. Besides, doesn't everyone know that using data to back up claims is for companies that are trying to mislead you?

This whole "data" concept is so overrated, I don't see how anyone could fall for it. This guy wants to fight with me, that's why he is asking me these questions, not because they are good questions. I will ignore the number of customers and potential customers that seem to agree with this illogical fellow who seems to think data and substanciating my claims is important.

If data does happen to be collected, it is soley for the purpose of misleading customers. I will continue to make unsubstanciated claims and not back any of them up becasue I would never mislead my customers with this hocus-pocus data.

Come to me and buy my product because we have a "secret" ingredient that will make you play better. Don't ask me what the secret ingrediant is becasue those biased "data" companies will steal it and may actually show you how it works. Nevermind the fact that I could get a patent for my new designs and not worry about them getting stolen.

My cue is like the mono lisa, a masterpiece. I will compare my cue to a time honored work of art to show you how others just can't measure up to my unparalleled brilliance in production. Would you ask da Vinci to explain with data the beauty of his work?? Why would you ask me for data then, it's the same exact thing?

Who do all these damn scientists think they are anyway, coming up with practically everything from aspirin to the space shuttle. If only they would have just done it without biased data sets and proving their claims, things would be so much better. I am way ahead of them all, please don't ask me to stoop to their level."

Ok, so this is me again now. Anyway, thanks all for listening. :)

I personally consider Richards claims reneged. I'll leave that and everything else up to you as individuals to decide however. As a pointer, can you see how at first richard stated that he did not understand my questions, i then proceeded to ask one very clear and simple question. he then said my questions were uneducated. You see how he is inconsistent with his reasons not to answer (he is rationalizing folks)? This is one of the things cops look for when seeing if someone is lying or not, consistency.

If you're just catching this last part, the whole thread is a good, thought provoking read imo, check it out (to marketers and consumers). I'm gone for good (from this thread), you have my word.
 
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TX Poolnut said:
The day after the Expo, Charlie Bryant came back to Houston for a day and I got a chance to try out his new X Breaker with the Maximizer. I have had a Predator BK cue for years.

I will be purchasing a new X Breaker and selling the Predator.

Thank you so much.:)

Please say hi to Charlie, and thank him for showing his friends his X Breaker.

Richard
 
nipponbilliards said:
Actually "JUST TRY IT!" is a nice slogan, what do you think?

Should I use it?

By the way, Enzo, thank you for keeping this thread alive for so long and give it over 3000 views, much appreciated.:)

I like it when you compared my cue to a "Mona Lisa.":

Richard

Send me a freebee for enabling you to see the light:D

I'll PM you my ship to address :cool:

BTW...you brought up "Mona Lisa" as part of your marketing BULLSHEET before you comprehended the purity of "just try it":D
 
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You can't even report these threads...I think there is a block on the report spam button for these guys....You hit the spam button and your screen locks up...

I think Mike should give this guy and Mr Justice thier own personal section for promoting thier stuff...

Or at least create an ignore thread button so I don't have to scroll through spam......

But hey....at least 95% of the promotions from other people are shut down in a few hours...:rolleyes:

If I was IMSURRA I think I would sue....My wife's cousin's husband knows a lawyer that says he has a case...:rolleyes:
 
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BRKNRUN said:
You can't even report these threads...I think there is a block on the report spam button for these guys....You hit the spam button and your screen locks up...

I think Mike should give this guy and Mr Justice thier own personal section for promoting thier stuff...

Or at least create an ignore thread button so I don't have to scroll through spam......

But hey....at least 95% of the promotions from other people are shut down in a few hours...:rolleyes:

If I was IMSURRA I think I would sue....My wife's cousin's husband knows a lawyer that says he has a case...:rolleyes:


SPAM:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
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BRKNRUN said:
You can't even report these threads...I think there is a block on the report spam button for these guys....You hit the spam button and your screen locks up...

I think Mike should give this guy and Mr Justice thier own personal section for promoting thier stuff...

Or at least create an ignore thread button so I don't have to scroll through spam......

But hey....at least 95% of the promotions from other people are shut down in a few hours...:rolleyes:

If I was IMSURRA I think I would sue....My wife's cousin's husband knows a lawyer that says he has a case...:rolleyes:

SPAM:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
Spam

BRKNRUN said:
You can't even report these threads...I think there is a block on the report spam button for these guys....You hit the spam button and your screen locks up...

I think Mike should give this guy and Mr Justice thier own personal section for promoting thier stuff...

Or at least create an ignore thread button so I don't have to scroll through spam......

But hey....at least 95% of the promotions from other people are shut down in a few hours...:rolleyes:

If I was IMSURRA I think I would sue....My wife's cousin's husband knows a lawyer that says he has a case...:rolleyes:


Just helpen you keep this SPAM at the top Nippon:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
nipponbilliards said:
I am here to answer questions from those who are interested to know more about the X Breaker. I will not spend my time entertain uneducated and ungrounded accusation toward me, the X Breaker, or Xtreme Billiard Concepts regarding misrepresentation. The responsibility of charging me for misrepresentation lies in the person who makes the accusation.

You claim you are here to answer questions but when they are asked you say that they are uneducated and ungrounded accusations toward you. People are making these statements because they are interested in your product and possibly willing to spend their money on an X Breaker. You say it can do this and that but you aren't willing to back those claims up with facts to the people who might buy your product.

Just because someone does not understand why certain thing can do what it can does not mean it is a lie, and just because I am not prepared to enter into a fight with a person who is simply looking for a fight for the sake of having a fight does not mean I do not know what I am talking about.

Here is your opportunity to educate people that don't understand.....

The maXimizer can keep the tip in contact with the cue ball longer.

This is the statement that I have been asking you to back up. I find it very difficult to believe that a piece of urethane at the butt end of the cue can control a vibration at the tip of the cue. So yes I don't understand, so educate me.

For those of you who have a X Breaker, I recommend that you try to break with the X Breaker without the maXimizer, and pay attention to the vibration on the shaft and the control you get on the cue ball. The MaXimizer does much more than just reducing vibration. It is a very new concept and I am working on putting forth a very easy to understand explaination. It is actually not a Limbsaver.

I tried it with both and like I have said before I believe it only offers a difference in feel and has little if any effect on the shaft / tip. When breaking how are you going to feel the vibration of the shaft? You aren't, you are going to feel the vibration of the butt because that is where you are gripping the cue during your follow through.

Try close your eyes, and listen to the sound the cue makes during contact. The hit is not dampened, it is actually intensified.

I don't think it's a good idea for people to try to break with their eyes closed.....

During the Expo, a lot of cue makers and companies have come to my booth trying out my cue. One big company which loves to use data to back its claims came and checked out my taper, and all sorts of things. They also wanted to buy one of my cue, their chief operating officer came to take my catalogues without asking me.

They acted so insecured and threatened it was actually very funny. The funniest part was that they kept trying to tell me they did not think we were competitions, and yet at the same time they were showing a lot of interests in the X Breaker.

I paid a visit to their booth the next day to return the favor, and the chief officer told his staff not to tell me anything about their cues.

One of his staff said when people loved the X Breaker because they could make more balls off the break, they were wrong.

He said they needed to be educated! I guess what he meant was everyone should only pay attention to a certain squirt percentage, even if it does nothing impressive to their break in terms of power and control.

They had a very fancy booth, with radar gun, lots of stuff, and what have you. Nevertheless, I have so many customors came to my booth after they tried their cue, and told me they loved the X Breaker and they wanted to buy one.

I think I should thank them, because it was even more obvious how good the X Breaker was when being compared to their product.

Why don't you just say it was Predator. I don't see it as a big deal if they took one of your brochures. You had them in your booth and any one walking by could take one. Also I believe all of the same information can be found on your website. And no I don't work for Predator.

My experience is when people are in a vendor's booth they almost always tell that vendor exactly what they want to hear. A lot of the same people who said they love the X Breaker probably told Predator how much they love the BK2.


I know someone is very interested to know how I came up with my design and I am not about to disclose any of it.

I don't understand what you think is so special about your design. It is constructed just like many other cues out there. If someone wanted to find out any detail that they can't see on the outside, then they could just as easily use a saw.

A lot of people like to see figures and data and numbers, without really knowing how the numbers were obtained and how meaningful those numbers really are.

I think the company which has tried to use number as an "objective" measure to measure the performance of a cue has done more bad to pool in the last ten years than it has done to promote the game.

You think Predator has done more bad than good for the industry? I think the thousands of people in who use Predator shafts would probably disagree with you.

I can tell you folks right now power and control are very important but control should not be measured solely in terms of "deflection." They can offer any data and theory they want but the truth is their breaking cue does not offer the control that mine offers.

How can you substantiate the claim that your cue offers more control than the BK2? I think this is the reason people are giving you such a hard time. You make a claim that you can not validate. This is not "truth" it is an oppinion unless you can prove it.

Speed is important but the speed obtained by a robot who does not drop its elbow, who makes the same effort to swing the cue be it 12 oz or 35 oz, is totally meaningless for those who wants to use these data to determine if a certain cue will break "better."

A lot of people kick their legs, raised their bodies, turned their shoulders, tighten their grips...how do you use a robot to duplicate that?

Powerful breakers swing the cue in a single plane. A robot can do just that and it can do it repeatedly with the same exact stroke. You do not want to duplicate all the variations of different people's break. You want to eliminate all the variances except for the cue when performing a test.

Without understanding the true dynamite of the break, these robotic data is, in my opinion, a set of data skewed to prove a point to make a sale.

In a nutshell, if these tests and data were really so meaningful, a breaking cue manufactured as a result of these tests should be better than anything else...but it simply is not!!! The first generation from this company was not great, and either is this second generation!

Instead of saying may be their approach is wrong, they think their customers are wrong and need to be educated. Therefore, more meaningless tests were done, more data were presented, and more misinformed customers went to make their purchase just to be disappointed.

That is why I think they have done more harm than good to pool.

Now you are trying to discredit a company without providing any proof that their product data is skewed and meaningless. That their customers are dissappointed without providing statements from customers. This is close to being libel. Platinum Billiards rated the BK2 #1 against over 30 other cues, therefore you could say that a cue manufactured as a result of those tests is better than any other cue it was tested against. To say Predator has done more harm than good for pool seems ridiculous to me and I think the people who play with their products would agree.

We pride ourselves as being a revolutionary company(i.e. a real revolutionary company; not one which sells the same product for the last ten years), and we do not like to be associated in any way with a company which has used meaningless data and statistic to misinform its customers in order to make a sales for over ten years.

Therefore, it has been our policy from the very beginning that we will try our best to differentiate ourselves from such a company.

This company does not know much about cues, they think a certain percentage is the key to a good cue.

Again you are making very bold claims against what is probably the most succesful company ever in the billiards industry. Don't you think a product that can stay on the market for 10 years and continue to be successful must be a good one. Are you saying that all the people who use Predator shafts are misinformed people?

I will not use this approach. My customers trusted me and I will try my best never to violate that trust.

If you want unrealistic data and stats, please go to the other companies.

In Xtreme Billiards, we offer a real cue, with real performance. We have found a secret to a good breaking cue that no one has found before, and we are here to offer you this secret weapon.

A secret weapon? Are you serious???

With the X Breaker, you do not need to be "re educated"; you try it, and you will know why it is better. No skewed data and unrealistic robotic test will be used to "educate" you.

When you look at a "Mona Lisa", you do not need data showing a certain squirt percentage to convince you that it is a master piece, do you?

On the other hand, these guys who have no talent to build a master piece can try their darest to come up with all kinds of test, data, use their computer and robot and what not...but they will never be able to build a master piece, as shown in this venture they started more than a year ago with their "new" breaking cue.

Please do not ask me to advertise the X Breaker the way they do, I am way ahead of them in case you dont realize.

Richard

Richard,
This is the most absurd thing I have ever read. You do not provide any statements that you can back up with real data. Then you choose to attack the most succesful company in the industry. You put their products and their development methods down without providing anything that shows why your product and methods are better. I had some respect for you and your products before you decided to make a post like this. I understand you are passionate about your product, but I think you need to reevaluate how you are doing things before you lose anymore potential customers or face a lawsuit.
 
BRKNRUN said:
You can't even report these threads...I think there is a block on the report spam button for these guys....You hit the spam button and your screen locks up...

I think Mike should give this guy and Mr Justice thier own personal section for promoting thier stuff...

Or at least create an ignore thread button so I don't have to scroll through spam......

But hey....at least 95% of the promotions from other people are shut down in a few hours...:rolleyes:

If I was IMSURRA I think I would sue....My wife's cousin's husband knows a lawyer that says he has a case...:rolleyes:

I started the "x" thread in the "WANTED/FOR SALE" forum. I even suggested that it be "sticky" to save nipponbilliards the trouble of promulagating a new one whenever he felt the urge to pimp his product. It is unfair to use ANY other vendor, supplier, pimp in the same sentence as nipponbilliards. They use THIS forum more than the cumulative total of the next 20 combined vendors. (statistical data available upon request:rolleyes:)

The ORRIGINAL CUE PIMP

As some of you know I'm upon golden pond and have been retired for a while. I'm toying with the idea of a "poll" next JAN. It will be an endeaver to select the " KING of CUE PIMPS". This is only possible because I'm no longer active. It's time to pass the mantle:(
 
Richard, I think it's time that you stop wasting your time fielding these questions, these people read into every word you say and then blow it out of proportion, bottom line is that a lot of people realize that you have and sell the best J/B cue and you are trying to make it better, so if they don't want to read about it maybe these highly intelligent people can hit that little arrow at the right hand side of their screen and scroll right past your thread.....
 
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