4 point,4 veneer

chuckpilegis

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Whats the going rate to build one now
no inlays maybe hoppe ring
I see even new cuemakers are asking 800-1000
Maybe i am looking in the wrong places
 
$800-$1000 is not outrageous, IMO. Materials are expensive, as is time and knowledge. Do you want sharp, even points? Clean lines and smooth finish? Fine details? Quality shaft & other materials? These things cost somebody something, and the builder is not doing himself any favors if he gives all of this without charging accordingly.
 
As with anything in any business, the answer is, of course, it depends. It depends on the area the builder lives and works in. 15 years ago, in Mississippi, a 4 point, no veneer A joint cue was going for $450, with certain woods costing a little more. Each veneer was an added cost, I think about $50 for each veneer, but it may have been a little less. So for a 4 point 4 veneer cue in Mississippi where cost of living is one of the least in the country, you were looking at $650 15 years ago. $800-1000 wouldn't be out of line back then in areas with a higher cost of living. Now, I imagine that $800-1000 is a great price by a competent cue maker, maybe less by a new cue maker trying to make a name for himself and get his cues out there.
 
In my opinion, your best value would be a used cue in the secondary market. As with any business, the economy dictates price. Then the other choice is a manufactured cue which will be far less cost than a custom made cue. As far as why the prices are so high, I don't think anyone can really answer that question nor wants to and be crucified or looked down upon. There are custom cue makers that build great cues that can help you and provide quality at a much lower price, they are harder to find , but they are out there.
 
In my opinion, your best value would be a used cue in the secondary market. As with any business, the economy dictates price. Then the other choice is a manufactured cue which will be far less cost than a custom made cue. As far as why the prices are so high, I don't think anyone can really answer that question nor wants to and be crucified or looked down upon. There are custom cue makers that build great cues that can help you and provide quality at a much lower price, they are harder to find , but they are out there.

I want a certain veneer combination and need the points to touch or almost touch at the base,plus I would like a stacked leather wrap among a few other things. Used cue on secondary market not going to happen with the things I want.Plus I have a dozen cues of which seven I had made for me that I would rather use than a second hand cue that doesnt fit what I want.
 
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I want a certain veneer combination and need the points to touch or almost touch at the base,plus I would like a stacked leather wrap among a few other things. Used cue on secondary market not going to happen with the things I want.Plus I have a dozen cues of which seven I had made for me that I would rather use than a second hand cue that doesnt fit what I want.

It seems like you are familiar with pricing but are you familiar with how much work and time is involved? I think you are. Good deal I say.

Mario
 
I want a certain veneer combination and need the points to touch or almost touch at the base,plus I would like a stacked leather wrap among a few other things.

Given that a good piece of birdseye or curly maple will be around $15-$20, a typical piece of exotic will range from $15-$75, the stack leather, steel joint, veneers, collar material, shaft stock, ferrule material, etc. can all quickly add up to a couple hundy, then $800-$1000 seems cheap to me. A guy has to be able to pay his utility bills, equipment maintenance, glues, paper towels, finish products, etc., and still be able to have enough cash left after the sale to make it worth his while. Even a newb who's trying to make a name can add up the costs & realize whether a cue is going make him money or cost him money. A guy who can build this cue for $800-$1000 won't be in business long.

Newbs usually don't have these materials on hand, which means they have to buy some or all of it after you place the order. It doesn't happen over night so he needs money in the interim. After completion, anything he profits from this cue will go into funding the next cue he builds, until eventually he can build a flow that he can begin to pay himself with. Otherwise, being a newb builder is very expensive and financially stressful.

Don't mean to sound negative at all. I just think many folks don't realize what a custom cue costs to build, especially when talking advanced techniques and materials. Newbs charge that much because that's what it costs, without driving them into the red on every build. They aren't overcharging. They are trying to make a dollar & survive. I promise you it's not lucrative. Heck, even doubling that budget, which is the ballpark I would charge, isn't going to make enough profit to pay minimum wage. A guy would have to have multiple cues going at once to pay himself a worthy wage. That's a luxury a newb doesn't have. Again, not being negative or raining on anyone's parade. Just putting it in perspective.
 
Given that a good piece of birdseye or curly maple will be around $15-$20, a typical piece of exotic will range from $15-$75, the stack leather, steel joint, veneers, collar material, shaft stock, ferrule material, etc. can all quickly add up to a couple hundy, then $800-$1000 seems cheap to me. A guy has to be able to pay his utility bills, equipment maintenance, glues, paper towels, finish products, etc., and still be able to have enough cash left after the sale to make it worth his while. Even a newb who's trying to make a name can add up the costs & realize whether a cue is going make him money or cost him money. A guy who can build this cue for $800-$1000 won't be in business long.

Newbs usually don't have these materials on hand, which means they have to buy some or all of it after you place the order. It doesn't happen over night so he needs money in the interim. After completion, anything he profits from this cue will go into funding the next cue he builds, until eventually he can build a flow that he can begin to pay himself with. Otherwise, being a newb builder is very expensive and financially stressful.

Don't mean to sound negative at all. I just think many folks don't realize what a custom cue costs to build, especially when talking advanced techniques and materials. Newbs charge that much because that's what it costs, without driving them into the red on every build. They aren't overcharging. They are trying to make a dollar & survive. I promise you it's not lucrative. Heck, even doubling that budget, which is the ballpark I would charge, isn't going to make enough profit to pay minimum wage. A guy would have to have multiple cues going at once to pay himself a worthy wage. That's a luxury a newb doesn't have. Again, not being negative or raining on anyone's parade. Just putting it in perspective.


You said that right. It looks easy on youtube but in reality it takes skill to execute cue construction properly Every time. Blink and you can miss something. Im going to get off my soap box before I start a novel.
 
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