7 foot tables with 3 piece slate recommendations?

m00sebumps

m00sebumps

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Hello and thank you for taking the time to read my post, I am a long time lurker but have never posted. I'm moving into a new home this summer that has a spare room over the garage that would be big enough for a 7 foot table. Ideally I would really like to get an old bar box since that is what a lot of tournaments are played on in my city but I do worry about the logistics of getting one piece slate up the stairs as you have to make a 90 degree right turn from the landing to continue up the steps. I'm also thinking maybe the quote might be a bit higher from pro installers to move one piece slate to the second story? How common is it to find a 7 footer with 3 piece slate, and if so, can you recommend something to keep an eye out for? In the end, I would be happy with anything that has good cushions and nice cloth. Sorry if this is a redundant topic, I did do a quick search but didn't see any threads that answered my question. Thanks again.
 
couldnthinkof01 said:
Diamond makes a 3 piece for the bar table I believe.
Cutting out cardboard the size of the slate to see if you can get it in helps.
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oh man, that would be the ultimate table for me but I'm not quite in the income bracket for a $6,000 table. Thank you for the cardboard idea, in the end I'm thinking this may be a pipe dream unless I get lucky finding something used.
 
couldnthinkof01 said:
Diamond makes a 3 piece for the bar table I believe.
Cutting out cardboard the size of the slate to see if you can get it in helps.
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This is a good idea, but if he does it I think he should do the outside dimensions of the box, not the slate. I am thinking about a similar issue, but an easier short stairway to deal with. I haven't done the cardboard thing. Maybe I should. I did talk to RKC a while back. He knows about this. And he can do things others wouldn't when it comes to moving a bar table.

3 pc slate either Diamond or Rasson do. I think the home model 3 pc slate 7 footers are a little smaller than the commercial ones, right?
 
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m00sebumps said:
oh man, that would be the ultimate table for me but I'm not quite in the income bracket for a $6,000 table. Thank you for the cardboard idea, in the end I'm thinking this may be a pipe dream unless I get lucky finding something used.
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I would definitely look for something used. Should be able to find one around 2500-3k.

I'm no expert but I think most of the Valleys and Dynamos (found in most bars)$600-$1500 are one piece slate.

Next best cheap option would be a used furniture table. Should be able to find one for cheap that has a 3 piece slate. This will also work just fine if set up properly. You don't really need a commercial table for home practice, although it's nice.
 
couldnthinkof01 said:
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I would definitely look for something used. Should be able to find one around 2500-3k.

I'm no expert but I think most of the Valleys and Dynamos (found in most bars)$600-$1500 are one piece slate.

Next best cheap option would be a used furniture table. Should be able to find one for cheap that has a 3 piece slate. This will also work just fine if set up properly. You don't really need a commercial table for home practice, although it's nice.
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Yeah, the Valleys and Dynamos are 1 pc slate. A used one with good new cloth and Ridgeback or Penguin rails will be in the 2-3k range probably. The 7' is I think 93" outside length. Slate is about 300 lbs right? Box similar weight I think. I have never moved one and am not a table mechanic by any means - I have just been looking at table specs recently.
 
couldnthinkof01 said:
Why

I would definitely look for something used. Should be able to find one around 2500-3k.

I'm no expert but I think most of the Valleys and Dynamos (found in most bars)$600-$1500 are one piece slate.

Next best cheap option would be a used furniture table. Should be able to find one for cheap that has a 3 piece slate. This will also work just fine if set up properly. You don't really need a commercial table for home practice, although it's nice.
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I am not opposed to a furniture table at all. As long as the cushions are good, I'd have it set up with Simonis, Andy, or any decent worsted cloth I could find. This seems like the most likely route.
 
JPB2 said:
Yeah, the Valleys and Dynamos are 1 pc slate. A used one with good new cloth and Ridgeback or Penguin rails will be in the 2-3k range probably. The 7' is I think 93" outside length. Slate is about 300 lbs right? Box similar weight I think. I have never moved one and am not a table mechanic by any means - I have just been looking at table specs recently.
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JPB2 said:
Yeah, the Valleys and Dynamos are 1 pc slate. A used one with good new cloth and Ridgeback or Penguin rails will be in the 2-3k range probably. The 7' is I think 93" outside length. Slate is about 300 lbs right? Box similar weight I think. I have never moved one and am not a table mechanic by any means - I have just been looking at table specs recently.
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Sounds all about right to me. Table with install and new rails/cloth 2-3k.
I'm not sure what they weigh. Helped friends move a few. They are heavy.
 
If you can't get the slate up, there is no chance of getting a bar box up there.

But if you could find a table that comes apart with a 7 foot, one piece slate, I suppose you could cut it in half?! And then modify the table with cross bracing in the middle where the seam will be.
 
I have personal experience moving a Valley. Although slate was about as heaving as the table, it was a lot easier to move than the table. As was stated before, if you can't get the slate in, don't feel you are going to get table in. Table is longer, wider and much deeper depth than the slate.
 
eastcoast_chris said:
If you can't get the slate up, there is no chance of getting a bar box up there.

But if you could find a table that comes apart with a 7 foot, one piece slate, I suppose you could cut it in half?! And then modify the table with cross bracing in the middle where the seam will be.
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I had mixed up some of my information and was thinking 7 foot slate is much heavier than it actually is. I am thinking a decent quality furniture table with good cushions and nice cloth would be my best option.
 
RandyinHawaii said:
I have personal experience moving a Valley. Although slate was about as heaving as the table, it was a lot easier to move than the table. As was stated before, if you can't get the slate in, don't feel you are going to get table in. Table is longer, wider and much deeper depth than the slate.
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Thank you, all of the information I'm getting here is helping me with making much more informed research and decisions :)
 
m00sebumps said:
I had mixed up some of my information and was thinking 7 foot slate is much heavier than it actually is. I am thinking a decent quality furniture table with good cushions and nice cloth would be my best option.
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FWIW, I carried a one piece slate from an 8' Valley up a flight of stairs by myself... used a ratchet strap under the slate and over my shoulder. Not recommended, but doable. With two people you'd be fine if you can make the turn.
 
Ask around and find a good table mechanic in your area. Someone with a good reputation. Not just a table mover or dealer, someone that knows what they are doing. Tell him what you need. He will either already have it, or know where to get it. Tell him where it’s going and that you will provide the muscle. Get some reliable help for the delivery day. If you find the right table guy, all goes well, and costs less.
 
Jimmorrison said:
Ask around and find a good table mechanic in your area. Someone with a good reputation. Not just a table mover or dealer, someone that knows what they are doing. Tell him what you need. He will either already have it, or know where to get it. Tell him where it’s going and that you will provide the muscle. Get some reliable help for the delivery day. If you find the right table guy, all goes well, and costs less.
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We do have a family owned business here that has been in business since the 1890's or so which is pretty darn impressive. They have a great reputation, I'm pretty 100% on using them :)
 
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