70's Scruggs: Should I have Tim Put His Logo On It

Donald A. Purdy said:
I would get the letter. He doesn't remember if he made mine. Say's he may have. I bought it as a Scruggs.
Don P.
Click to expand...
Thanks for the advice, Don. I'll definitely get a letter of authenticity, but should I have Tim's logo stamped on the butt cap?

Regards,
Steve
 
Last edited:
Nope. Don't do it. Now this is just my opinion because I am currently a collector in training. :p :D If you look at the Blue Book 2nd Ed., there are a lot of cuemakers who didn't have a logo of some sort when they started their craft.

Having a cue pre-logo is awesome, very collectable and unique in itself. If you get the letter of authenticity (like Mr. Purdy is suggesting...), IMO, it'd be better than him stamping his current logo on it. I know an older cat who has an older Black Boar without old boar w/horns logo or the newer BB signature. Trust me when I say it's a Black Boar! :D
 
Imagine owning a Civil War era firearm with the original finish. Leaving it not refinished gives the item way way more value that if it were refinished - even by the country's best refinisher/gunsmith.

I myself own a very early Ernie Martinez cue that has the Showcase Billiards logo - made when he started out at Showcase. Imagine its devaluation were I to update the logo nowadays.
 
ToughRowToHoe said:
I just got off the phone with Tim. He thinks it would be a good idea to put his logo on my cue. Should I have it done? Would it hurt or help the value? What would you do?

Here's the cue:

http://www.azbilliards.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=13512

Thanks
Click to expand...

One of the things that makes the cue special is that there is no logo. There are lots of TS cues out there with a logo. The letter with a story about the cue would be what I would want if I were buying it.

Chris
 
Thanks to all of you for the good advice. I told Tim that I don't want the logo. If anyone's interested in the cue, I should have a letter of authenticity sometime next week.

Regards,
Steve
 
ToughRowToHoe said:
Thanks to all of you for the good advice. I told Tim that I don't want the logo. If anyone's interested in the cue, I should have a letter of authenticity sometime next week.

Regards,
Steve
Click to expand...


I think you should have gotten it, you're only going to sell it and it's worth more as a TS then an unknown. And if you decide to pull a move and try to sell as something more you need to be stung up by your E-bay nuts. I don't much care for salesman as it is. In any event I would not worry about Tim's memory if he told Purdman that he didn't recall the cue it's a good chance he might not have made it, Tim has a better memory then most 22 year olds that I know.

Jim
 
JimBo said:
I think you should have gotten it, you're only going to sell it and it's worth more as a TS then an unknown. And if you decide to pull a move and try to sell as something more you need to be stung up by your E-bay nuts. I don't much care for salesman as it is. In any event I would not worry about Tim's memory if he told Purdman that he didn't recall the cue it's a good chance he might not have made it, Tim has a better memory then most 22 year olds that I know.

Jim
Click to expand...
I can't understand what you're saying.
 
I'd get a letter of authenticity first with the cue as-is.

If you decide to get it modified with the TS logo, then get a second letter of authenticity. History of the cue is what makes it worth more on the originals. Also, if you have your own personal "diary" of what the stick has gone through while it's been in your possession, that can help it's value.

Only time will tell though.
 
No LOGO!!

Ronoh said:
I'd get a letter of authenticity first with the cue as-is.

If you decide to get it modified with the TS logo, then get a second letter of authenticity. History of the cue is what makes it worth more on the originals. Also, if you have your own personal "diary" of what the stick has gone through while it's been in your possession, that can help it's value.

Only time will tell though.
Click to expand...

No LOGO Equals MoreDOE
 
I'd say get a letter from Tim and don't let him Initial it......it dates the cue it was when he didn't put it on them, if it is an older one. If it is one that the butt cap was replaced by someone else, then definatly get him to replace it with one that has his initials. Not sure about the cue but if it was before he put it one there I would just get a letter verifiing it and leave it original..........just my opinion.
 
JimBo said:
I think you should have gotten it, you're only going to sell it and it's worth more as a TS then an unknown.
Click to expand...
Isn't that what the letter of authenticity provides?

(without changing the cue from original condition)
 
Why will the cuemaker offer to put his logo on it if it will devalue the cue? I can see the logic of increased value by keeping to the original as much as possible... so why offer to put the logo? Just curious. ;)
 
monski said:
Why will the cuemaker offer to put his logo on it if it will devalue the cue? I can see the logic of increased value by keeping to the original as much as possible... so why offer to put the logo? Just curious. ;)
Click to expand...
My guess would be simply to make the cue more readily identifiable as "his work."

Since Tim doesn't own the cue, I doubt the value of it even entered the equation.
 
monski said:
Why will the cuemaker offer to put his logo on it if it will devalue the cue? I can see the logic of increased value by keeping to the original as much as possible... so why offer to put the logo? Just curious. ;)
Click to expand...



Cuemakers are in business to make money, why would he NOT do it? If he made the cue and is sure he did then he should have no problem doing it. Many times people go to other makers for repairs and they get new but plates with no stamp, if they spent the extra money to have the right person do the work they would have gotten the stamp in the first place. As far as value goes, most cuemakers are making a tool for people to shoot pool with they aren't so concerned with people who want to sell the cues. It's also ethical to mark your work so scrubs like toughrow don't try to trick people when trying to resell the cue.

Jim
 
JimBo said:
Cuemakers are in business to make money, why would he NOT do it? If he made the cue and is sure he did then he should have no problem doing it.

monski: So is the authenticity still a possible issue here? Its was bought as a TS right?
Click to expand...
 
Last edited:
JimBo said:
As far as value goes, most cuemakers are making a tool for people to shoot pool with they aren't so concerned with people who want to sell the cues. It's also ethical to mark your work so scrubs like toughrow don't try to trick people when trying to resell the cue.

Jim
Click to expand...
--------------
monski: So if he gets either a logo or a letter, that would put the cue in order right? So from a this cuemaker's standpoint, a logo would be better to avoid any confusion in identifying the cue in the future... I can see the point. And yes probably it risks devaluing the cue. But if the letter mentions that the logo was just installed now, maybe the value will even go up?
;)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top