'73 WC final.................

snookered_again

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at one point I saw 12- 85 with two reds on the table. the game is conceded.
85-12 is 73 points spread , 18 for the two reds, and 27 for the colors is 45 he needed them all plus to gain 28 from hooks.. plus it was the other guys turn so I guess conceding was gentleman like. It didn't seem likely, but their skill levels, I had to wonder if that would have been actually possible.. might have been a free ball in there.. with that many left.

maybe the frustration of playing that out would put a guy off?
 

Bob Jewett

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at one point I saw 12- 85 with two reds on the table. the game is conceded.
85-12 is 73 points spread , 18 for the two reds, and 27 for the colors is 45 he needed them all plus to gain 28 from hooks.. plus it was the other guys turn so I guess conceding was gentleman like. It didn't seem likely, but their skill levels, I had to wonder if that would have been actually possible.. might have been a free ball in there.. with that many left.

maybe the frustration of playing that out would put a guy off?
No, you made several errors in the scoring. The score was 63-11 when Reardon started his break. Reardon made a break of 22, and missed on a red. Charlton missed a double on a red and then conceded. The score was then 85-11 with a difference of 74. A detail is that the red that Charlton missed on the double would have ended right in front of a middle pocket, so there would have been only 1 red on the table even if Reardon had missed the easy blue following the red.

Two reds left and the best possible score without fouls is 43. Each red is counted as red+black = 8 for this purpose.

This means that Charlton needed to score at least 31 points beyond what was left on the table to win or tie the frame. That would be 8 4-point fouls. He could also score several free balls with reds left on the table which could add to the "foul" points.

In modern play, anyone who decided to continue needing 8 snookers would be considered a nasty turd for wasting everyone's time. The professional record for winning when needing snookers is 6 snookers. I think the commentator had it wrong when they set it was amazing that Charlton didn't try to go for snookers.

To get 8 fouls you probably need 50 snookers against a top player, as they are pretty good at escapes these days. And there is the possibility that the leader will turns the tables and snooker the trailer at some point in that very protracted process.

Here is the story of the player who got six snookers:

It was the 1983 Jameson International quarter-final; John Spencer was 3-2 down to Jimmy White in their best-of-9 match, he trailed 74-16 with one red left, so 58 behind and 35 on – needing six snookers.
He gained 23 points from five White fouls, gained a free ball and cleared with 40 to win 74-79 on the black.
 
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