8 and out - 1 pocket

Russ Chewning said:
Gotcha. Keep in mind, I advocated approaching that dead combo from another angle. I never intended to shoot the 4 ball first if the combo was dead. Read my original post.

If the combo were dead, I personally like either banking the 5 ball into the combo, or hitting the 11 directly and caroming into the 5. The point is, you mention that it is improbable not to get a shot if you shoot the combo and go to mid table. And I say it is impossible not to get a shot by staying down near the 4 and 6.

You got 6 balls in the open right now. If you had a better shot on one of those six balls (CB being further off the rail and closer to the 15, for example..) it would be suicide for you to shot the combo unless it was a stop shot, couldn't miss, absolutely 100% hanger.

Even Efren knows that if you got open balls and can run out without breaking the stack open, you do it. He knows that ANYTHING could happen to screw you and put you behind a ball, or on some tough sellout combo, etc.

I'm just saying this is one of those RARE opportunities to win an absolute gift game. You need to look hard for what you would do hill-hill in the finals against Efren here. If you think your best chance is to hit the combo and travel seven feet to the center of the table, not being sure what your next shot is, then that works for you. As long as you're confident, then that is the right shot for you. That just doesn't work for me.

I see many uncertainties here. If you don't look close, some stuff can catch you off guard.. See what happens (maybe) if you shoot a stop shot on the combo..

Anyways.. we're cool, man.. Just trying to give you a different perspective. I've been in too many games where I got lazy on position, did not play tight enough, only ran 7, and lost the game.

Good shootin' to yah....

Russ

Yeah, I think we're both in agreement that shooting the combo brings in some more variables. But the prospect of having a stop shot runout is too much to pass up...especially against Effie. I know I'm way the underdog. Against a sucker I might not try to get out like that. Anyways, holler at you later...Golf time:p
 
Wow good dialogue. when I set this up, I made sure that combo was dead, but I also put enough balls in the open that you could go 8 and out (including the ball off the break) with out using the 3/12 combo.
 
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