8 Ball Analyze: Rack #3
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Yeah, without a doubt solids is easier. For one, stripes only has a couple of challenging shots to get you started but there's also that 11/12 mess on the rail you'd have to deal with. The big issue with solids is the upper left corner pocket that's not available for the 4-ball but, you should be able to start your run with the 7-ball in the side and get relatively straight on the 2-ball. After a stop on the 2, the 4-ball is available in the bottom-side pocket and then it's duck-duck-duck-goose.
Yes I think solids is a good choice. If I felt like gambling I could take the easy 14-9 combo and the 14 should run up and break up that 12-15 problem, all on the first shot. But that is somewhat risky, I may not have a good 2nd shot and I could create another cluster. I would only do this if I needed a 10-0 for the round (our league system is 10 points, point per ball and 3 points for the 8).
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I would also take solids.
6 in the side to start.
Depending on where I roll, I am either shooting the 1 ball to get to the 3.
Or I am shooting the 5 and drawing back to get better position on the 1 ball.
Once on the 3 I am trying to get straight in on the 2 ball for a stop shot.
Depending on how this turns out, I would like to shoot the 4 in the side, with a little draw, and then the 7 in the bottom left corner, sliding a bit up table for the eight in the side or upper left pocket.
If the 5 is still on the table at this point I would get the angle on the 7 by drawing a bit off the 4 and then slow rolling the 7 at a steep angle into the bottom left pocket to bring the cue ball up table past the side pocket. Then it is just a stop shot or a little draw to make the 8-ball in the side.
Not that I would get out, but I see it all going well in my head
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Ben
6 in the side to start.
Depending on where I roll, I am either shooting the 1 ball to get to the 3.
Or I am shooting the 5 and drawing back to get better position on the 1 ball.
Once on the 3 I am trying to get straight in on the 2 ball for a stop shot.
Depending on how this turns out, I would like to shoot the 4 in the side, with a little draw, and then the 7 in the bottom left corner, sliding a bit up table for the eight in the side or upper left pocket.
If the 5 is still on the table at this point I would get the angle on the 7 by drawing a bit off the 4 and then slow rolling the 7 at a steep angle into the bottom left pocket to bring the cue ball up table past the side pocket. Then it is just a stop shot or a little draw to make the 8-ball in the side.
Not that I would get out, but I see it all going well in my head
.Ben
I agree, Solids as well. Start with 6 ball.
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Here are my thoughts. Solids are the right shot, but you have one shot at it. You miss, and I think you're cooked. Either way, the first shot is the toughest, but the rest of it should be an out for most very good players. I don't want to make it like everyone on the board can run everything out all the time, but the attitude and mindset on this rack should be: make the first solid and run out the rack. No glorious safety battles here.
IMO, since the 2-ball passes into the corner, then the 6-ball is the first ball on this table. I don't mind the 7-ball as the first shot either, but since the 2-ball is nice, then the 7-ball isn't a "must get it out of there now" ball.
And quite frankly, I don't think stripes is a bad choice here for you grinders.
Freddie <~~~ would miss the 6 or 7 anyway
The angle on the 7 is no good. If you aim to the far end of the pocket with speed like you are supposed to hit that ball you have a large risk of getting uncomfortably close to the 2 and having to shoot an odd shot. The margin for error is very small when shooting the 7 first. No reason to make your life difficult by doing that, there are plenty of shots you can take after pocketing the 6 first which will give you a straight shot on the 2, which is how you would want to play this out.
I see the angle on the 7 as relatively straight. I agree, if you're drifting toward the 2, it's no good but if it's near-straight, I'm confident I can get straight on the 2 with no problems.
In case you want to see that shot on the 7:
Yeah, I like the 7 less now.
Okay, my revised plan is to start with the 6, take the 5 after. Get near straight on the 4 in the side and then take out the 2 and 7.
Solids, all shots are open no clusters. Easy Run.
Balck Cat
Balck Cat
Perfect. Almost my exact plan...
6-5-1-3...
Getting a stop shot on the 2 is relatively easy. So is a subsequent stop shot on the 4 in the lower side, but that leads to a harder position on the 7 - unless you are able to deftly control a 5" draw.
It's easier to control a soft follow shot that a soft draw. So, I'd take the 7 before the 4, as I'd prefer to softly follow the 7 to open two pockets for the 4 (top side, upper left). Following the 4 gives you any of the lower pockets for the 8, depending upon how far you follow.
In case you want to see that shot on the 7:
This angle looks like the 4 in top side is possible. It may bump the 8 somewhat with a soft follow.
Then it's stop shot on 2, follow on 7 to lower left corner, soft follow on 6 in the lower side to clear the 10.
Then it's high inside follow on 1 to top right corner, 3 in same pocket taking cue ball across table to bottom rail.
Then it's drawing back for 8 in side or soft follow for 8 in upper right corner.
A LOT is riding on avoiding the 8 and 10 in the 6-1-3-5 sequence. That 10 ball can loom large when I need to navigate it 3 times. In my first pattern, we only need to clear it once.
That said, I still prefer my first pattern.