9 Ball Rule question
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Rules should be written to cover situations like this.
Yes easy-e,
Some pool players are triple smart and know how to cheat the rules.
If a player snatches up a cue ball that is already a foul, while it is still speeding around the table, they should be punished by a loss of game.
THE GUILTY PARTIES KNOW THAT THE ONLY PENALTY THEY WILL RECEIVE IS A SIMPLE FOUL AND MAYBE A WARNING TO NOT DO IT AGAIN. THEY ALSO KNOW AT THAT TIME, THAT BY PICKING UP THE SPEEDING CUE BALL GETTING READY TO BREAK UP A CLUSTER IT JUST MIGHT SAVE THEM THE GAME.
JoeyA
Yes easy-e,
Some pool players are triple smart and know how to cheat the rules.
If a player snatches up a cue ball that is already a foul, while it is still speeding around the table, they should be punished by a loss of game.
THE GUILTY PARTIES KNOW THAT THE ONLY PENALTY THEY WILL RECEIVE IS A SIMPLE FOUL AND MAYBE A WARNING TO NOT DO IT AGAIN. THEY ALSO KNOW AT THAT TIME, THAT BY PICKING UP THE SPEEDING CUE BALL GETTING READY TO BREAK UP A CLUSTER IT JUST MIGHT SAVE THEM THE GAME.
JoeyA
I saw that match...it was in Japan.....Mika missed a six-ball altogether and the cue ball
was going to break up the 7/ 8 whick were stuck on a ral together....
...Shane said something...but I don't think they called a ref....
To me, the least penalty should be loss of game....
...getting BIH is NOT a penalty....the other player already has that.
The second time should be disqualification
It's no different from scrambling the balls with your hand or picking them up and placing them where you want. Whether it was deliberate or not it unfairly changes the game and the penalty needs to restore the player who was screwed over by it. The only way to do that is loss of game for the fouler.
I agree with those that say intentionally interfering with a moving cue ball should be loss of game. The offender already knows he is giving up BIH and by altering the path off the moving cue ball he is very possibly changing the outcome of the game. I wouldnt think it would be hard to enforce, anyone who intentionally alters the path of a moving cue ball loses, it would be no different than an end of game situation where everyone waits until cue ball stops until touching it, even if its in the center of the table. People that grab a moving cue ball know exactly what they are doing.
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I kept the link till now, but it's not archived apparently , i do believe i remember seeing a ref come into the picture and they were discussing for a good few minutes before play resume. i'll still provide the link anyhow although it's a broken one
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/9133941
EXACTLY! They know exactly what they are doing.
So why don't the current rules JUSTLY PUNISH those who exhibit this type of behavior, INSTEAD of waiting to give a small verbal warning (like a warning is going to change anything).
Currently there is no additional punishment once a foul is committed (missing the object ball-BIH) and then grabbing the cue ball before it moves other balls that might help the incoming player.
Allowing referees (even though they are seldom present when such a thing occurs) to make "warning" judgment calls on such situations is ridiculous imo. The CHEATERS know exactly what they are doing.
JoeyA
So why don't the current rules JUSTLY PUNISH those who exhibit this type of behavior, INSTEAD of waiting to give a small verbal warning (like a warning is going to change anything).
Currently there is no additional punishment once a foul is committed (missing the object ball-BIH) and then grabbing the cue ball before it moves other balls that might help the incoming player.
Allowing referees (even though they are seldom present when such a thing occurs) to make "warning" judgment calls on such situations is ridiculous imo. The CHEATERS know exactly what they are doing.
JoeyA
In most bars I used to play in it's loss of right index finger.
Well at least its not my bridge hand, whew!!! :shocked2::shocked2::shocked2: I was mortified there for a few seconds until I realized it was my backhand!!!
It's not quite the same thing but it reminded me of this situation. Should Niels have gotten a foul for this? I don't think so, but you could imagine a situation where that cue ball was traveling faster and had a chance of scratching.
I was watching pool on ESPN once and they showed the last ball of some amateur 8-ball team championship on a 7-foot table and when the player made the 8-ball she threw her cue onto the table and it collided with the cueball which looked to me like it was headed straight into the corner pocket. No foul was called.
I remember a Mosconi cup where the final shot of the cup was an uncalled foul with the cue ball headed toward an unmanned stick. Ref could have interrupted the bouncing circle but I don't even think America wanted any more torture.
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