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JoeyA

JoeyA

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This is a link to a video that illustrates what can be done with the "A" path of the cue ball which is the path that the cue ball first leaves the object ball. This video dispels a myth that some people have about altering the A path of the cueball using side spin.

This guy has some incredible videos and has an instructional facility near where I am going to a big event in April. He can swing a cue too but I remember when he wasn't nearly as talented as he is now.;)

You can watch the video by clicking here.

It very well may be your best lesson ever in altering the path of the cue ball as it leaves the object ball.

Others may out the guy but I don't want to knock his action.
 
Hi Joey,

Good guidelines, but keep in mind that due to side spin throw one can ammend the cut angle which ammends the 'old' tangent line. So in essence side spin can effect the A path. I know I just ammended a parameter or two. But Combo English, Low or High with Side can be very valuable. I'm sure you konw this. But the video is a good guideline starting point

Thanks for posting it.

Best Regards & Wishes to You &
 
Those are the basic's one should know well ; before playing alot of english.

To few league players will never learn..their not willing to buy the books..vds, or
put in the table time to learn..the only reason this bugs me a little is..Its
hard to explain how to make a shot in a minute or less..

So if this guy puts out a vd..I'll suggest it.
 
scratchs said:
Those are the basic's one should know well ; before playing alot of english.

To few league players will never learn..their not willing to buy the books..vds, or
put in the table time to learn..the only reason this bugs me a little is..Its
hard to explain how to make a shot in a minute or less..

So if this guy puts out a vd..I'll suggest it.
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Mr. Scatch,

The info is there on You Tube.

Like you say, many league players don't care enough to put the time in so even if you sat them down & started the video they would probably light a cigerette to smoke or fall asleep.

Now if you have some that care & want the info, just steer them to the You Tube videos.

Regards to You &
 
JoeyA said:
This is a link to a video that illustrates what can be done with the "A" path of the cue ball which is the path that the cue ball first leaves the object ball. This video dispels a myth that some people have about altering the A path of the cueball using side spin.

This guy has some incredible videos and has an instructional facility near where I am going to a big event in April. He can swing a cue too but I remember when he wasn't nearly as talented as he is now.;)

You can watch the video by clicking here.

It very well may be your best lesson ever in altering the path of the cue ball as it leaves the object ball.

Others may out the guy but I don't want to knock his action.
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Awesome, Joey. I really like this. I have a few friends that I intend on sharing this with.
 
JoeyA said:
This is a link to a video that illustrates what can be done with the "A" path of the cue ball which is the path that the cue ball first leaves the object ball. This video dispels a myth that some people have about altering the A path of the cueball using side spin.

This guy has some incredible videos and has an instructional facility near where I am going to a big event in April. He can swing a cue too but I remember when he wasn't nearly as talented as he is now.;)

You can watch the video by clicking here.

It very well may be your best lesson ever in altering the path of the cue ball as it leaves the object ball.

Others may out the guy but I don't want to knock his action.
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Don't know why you say it's a "myth" I have done it plenty of times, slow hit with side spin to slowly curve around a ball in the way. Maybe in a perfect frictionless vacum it's not possible, but in the real world with cloth/ball friction, I've seen it. It's also a method used to avoid hitting the tip of the pocket when shooting a straight shot down the long rail past the pocket, hit with inside on the cueball, it will drift out a tiny bit to avoid the tip, then back in to make the ball. I just did that shot a week ago.

EDIT... I see what you mean about that comment, in the shot he shot, that's probably true. But it's not true in all situations.

I do like how he explains things, the chalk on the table is especially clear and easy to understand.
 
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hang-the-9 said:
Don't know why you say it's a "myth" I have done it plenty of times, slow hit with side spin to slowly curve around a ball in the way. Maybe in a perfect frictionless vacum it's not possible, but in the real world with cloth/ball friction, I've seen it. It's also a method used to avoid hitting the tip of the pocket when shooting a straight shot down the long rail past the pocket, hit with inside on the cueball, it will drift out a tiny bit to avoid the tip, then back in to make the ball. I just did that shot a week ago.

EDIT... I see what you mean about that comment, in the shot he shot, that's probably true. But it's not true in all situations.

I do like how he explains things, the chalk on the table is especially clear and easy to understand.
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Are you talking about masse? If so that has nothing to do with the shot or principle illustrated in the video?

Here is one for masse:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZAqHno_Kr4
 
JoeyA said:
This is a link to a video that illustrates what can be done with the "A" path of the cue ball which is the path that the cue ball first leaves the object ball. This video dispels a myth that some people have about altering the A path of the cueball using side spin.

This guy has some incredible videos and has an instructional facility near where I am going to a big event in April. He can swing a cue too but I remember when he wasn't nearly as talented as he is now.;)

You can watch the video by clicking here.

It very well may be your best lesson ever in altering the path of the cue ball as it leaves the object ball.

Others may out the guy but I don't want to knock his action.
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One thing about Mike is that he already was a professional instructor to begin with in his other career, so his ability to communicate his message has been honed.

With that said, there are several professors we've seen that just are horrible at communication.

Freddie <~~~ not a professor
 
The best of the best teachers.

Mike Page is possibly the best teacher / presenter in Pool.

His presentations are exceptionally well thought out. He uses exactly the graphic materials that are needed to illustrate his point in a simple manner. The elegance of his presentations should be studied by anyone who wants to teach well. Mike does not take on more material than can be handled in one sitting and leaves the student knowing they have learned something that they now need to master. In ten minutes he gives the student hours and hours of very specific guidelines for practice.

His presentations are simply beyond compare. His methods should be copied by others. I have reviewed over 50 media presentations in pool and billiards and Professor Page is unequaled in his teaching ability. There are several other excellent teachers but Mike sets the standard for elegance and clarity.
 
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I agree with others, Mike Page is great at providing clear educational info about pool. We are lucky to have him, as well as Dr. Dave, Bob Jewett & others.. And thanks to JoeyA for reminding us :).

Dave
 
ENGLISH! said:
Hi Joey,

Good guidelines, but keep in mind that due to side spin throw one can ammend the cut angle which ammends the 'old' tangent line. So in essence side spin can effect the A path. I know I just ammended a parameter or two. But Combo English, Low or High with Side can be very valuable. I'm sure you konw this. But the video is a good guideline starting point

Thanks for posting it.

Best Regards & Wishes to You &
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this might be nit picking but if the new( Ammended) contact point was hit with no english it would travel down the same A line as the spinning cue ball
so if you define the A line as the tangent off the contact point
then spin doesnt matter
i could be wrong

if you meant to say you can still make the shot and "tweak "the direction of the A line
by changing the contact point

i agree
 
Awesome! Perfect for a beginner like me who is shooting in very "urban" bars where the help doesn't come that easily.

Regarding those on league teams with, you say, " underachieving" teammates, well...you can lead a horse to water but can't make em drink. And you only get out what you put in.

I started playing 5 mos ago on a whim. Got hooked due to my competitive nature. Joined 2 league teams and put in barbox table time 4-5 times a week about 2-4 hour sessions in hostile environments. I am currently a 4 in APA 8 Ball (7-1 between 2 teams 1st session ever). And I would say 70% of my knowledge thus far is " self-sought after" 25% taught from others and, 5% from watching.

Without videos like this I know I would be soooooooo much further behind. Thanks and keep up the great work!
 
tugbugg99 said:
Awesome! Perfect for a beginner like me who is shooting in very "urban" bars where the help doesn't come that easily.

Regarding those on league teams with, you say, " underachieving" teammates, well...you can lead a horse to water but can't make em drink. And you only get out what you put in.

I started playing 5 mos ago on a whim. Got hooked due to my competitive nature. Joined 2 league teams and put in barbox table time 4-5 times a week about 2-4 hour sessions in hostile environments. I am currently a 4 in APA 8 Ball (7-1 between 2 teams 1st session ever). And I would say 70% of my knowledge thus far is " self-sought after" 25% taught from others and, 5% from watching.

Without videos like this I know I would be soooooooo much further behind. Thanks and keep up the great work!
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Tugbugg,
Trust me on this, new players aren't the only ones who benefit from videos like this.

There are hundreds of thousands of players who play pool a few times a week and they don't know all of the things that are in Mike Page's videos but should if they want to increase their level of play.

JoeyA
 
JoeW said:
Mike Page is possibly the best teacher / presenter in Pool.

His presentations are exceptionally well thought out. He uses exactly the graphic materials that are needed to illustrate his point in a simple manner. The elegance of his presentations should be studied by anyone who wants to teach well. Mike does not take on more material than can be handled in one sitting and leaves the student knowing they have learned something that they now need to master. In ten minutes he gives the student hours and hours of very specific guidelines for practice.

His presentations are simply beyond compare. His methods should be copied by others. I have reviewed over 50 media presentations in pool and billiards and Professor Page is unequaled in his teaching ability. There are several other excellent teachers but Mike sets the standard for elegance and clarity.
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Well sure, you're right about all of that but he's no salesman. :winknudge:

But seriously as you alluded to his content, I suggest that anyone who watches this or other videos of his, make sure you take his lessons to the table and master what he is teaching before going on to other videos.

Mike has a pool school (and separate training room as well) at Fargo Billiards and Gastorpub in Fargo, North Dakota in case you are passing through or want to get a taste of what else he knows.

His pool room is one of the VERY BEST IN THE NATION and I should know. :yeah:
 
bbb said:
this might be nit picking but if the new( Ammended) contact point was hit with no english it would travel down the same A line as the spinning cue ball
so if you define the A line as the tangent off the contact point
then spin doesnt matter
i could be wrong

if you meant to say you can still make the shot and "tweak "the direction of the A line
by changing the contact point

i agree
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Yes, you can change the contact point all the way to lining it up to mis the pocket & then throw it in with side spin combined with low or high.

I thought you had me on ignore. I thought I was the kind of guy you try to stay away from. Now it almost seems like you're stalking me.

What's up?
 
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ENGLISH! said:
Mr. Scatch,

The info is there on You Tube.

Like you say, many league players don't care enough to put the time in so even if you sat them down & started the video they would probably light a cigerette to smoke or fall asleep.

Now if you have some that care & want the info, just steer them to the You Tube videos.

Regards to You

I just rejoin a team I use to play with..I will point the video
out..
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I always like Mike's videos. Not only does he take the time to use props to illustrate his points but he takes pains to demonstrate and describe the points as clearly and simply as possible. And he takes the time to edit his videos to make them concise and full of good information in every moment.

A great great asset to pool.
 
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