A no-nonsense INFORMATIVE instruction.

Well sure, you're right about all of that but he's no salesman. :winknudge:

But seriously as you alluded to his content, I suggest that anyone who watches this or other videos of his, make sure you take his lessons to the table and master what he is teaching before going on to other videos.

Mike has a pool school (and separate training room as well) at Fargo Billiards and Gastorpub in Fargo, North Dakota in case you are passing through or want to get a taste of what else he knows.

His pool room is one of the VERY BEST IN THE NATION and I should know. :yeah:

I will second Mike's teaching, and his pool room, as I lucky enough to experience both may ties a week.

Mikes video "learn to pay pool in ten minutes" as over 1.3 million views, and the Asians live him.


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I wish Mike would make some more videos. Two years ago I watched all of them and still I return to them when I am trying to explain something to friends that just don't understand the way I explain it.
 
it kills me how good you guys play without saying this stuff is "basic, beginner's stuff, old news, etc"

lotta guys play off instinct, i guess i knew that. which is why most players cant teach. kinda kills me though
 
I got a chance to play for a few hours after watching that video.

It's kind of amazing how one little thing can "click". The part where he talks about side not changing the direction of the cueball when it hits the object ball, it just hit me perfectly.

I'm sure I knew a bit about that, perhaps even sub-consciously, but the way it was presented just made so much sense.

When I was playing last night, I had the stupid grin when using that info. Now, if I can refine it... I was "seeing" where I wanted to go much easier.

For beginners, this is big. Really big. Perhaps it is "old hat" to some, but I bet I could ask the folks I play league with, and not a high percentage would explain it such that you would think they understood it.

Now I'm gonna make sure I see all of his YouTube stuff. If I can pick out just one thing from each, I'll be way ahead. And I expect there is more than just one little thing, most of the time.
 
In our book, Mike Page is one of our best.

Thanks for all the great comments
Randy Goettlicher
Chairperson for P.B.I.A


PS: Fargo Billiards is the best...amen
 
it kills me how good you guys play without saying this stuff is "basic, beginner's stuff, old news, etc"

lotta guys play off instinct, i guess i knew that. which is why most players cant teach. kinda kills me though

There are many here that play very well....I wish I play at
half their speed..I'll never make it to a master player..
I'll just never stop trying to get there...keep it smooth.
 
it kills me how good you guys play without saying this stuff is "basic, beginner's stuff, old news, etc"

lotta guys play off instinct, i guess i knew that. which is why most players cant teach. kinda kills me though

The thing is that while the information might be basic or old news players often don't REALLY absorb it when they are learning. Sometimes just a new presentation on an old fact is enough to inspire. Hell that method is the basis of the entire "self-help" industry.

I don't really know where this idea comes from that most players can't teach either. It certainly is better when trained teachers present material in most cases but it's not necessarily fair to generalize and say that good players can't teach.



I got a chance to play for a few hours after watching that video.

It's kind of amazing how one little thing can "click". The part where he talks about side not changing the direction of the cueball when it hits the object ball, it just hit me perfectly.

I'm sure I knew a bit about that, perhaps even sub-consciously, but the way it was presented just made so much sense.

When I was playing last night, I had the stupid grin when using that info. Now, if I can refine it... I was "seeing" where I wanted to go much easier.

For beginners, this is big. Really big. Perhaps it is "old hat" to some, but I bet I could ask the folks I play league with, and not a high percentage would explain it such that you would think they understood it.

Now I'm gonna make sure I see all of his YouTube stuff. If I can pick out just one thing from each, I'll be way ahead. And I expect there is more than just one little thing, most of the time.

I think Mike's videos are good for players of all levels. I got a tip from one of his videos that really helped me tremendously. He said that on a half ball hit the object ball and the cue ball will travel about the same distance away from each other. For me when playing the long end rail safeties where you want the cue ball to end up behind a blocker this was huge. I would always misjudge these shots and try to use side spin to make it happen.

After watching Mike's tip I went to the table and worked on the half-ball hits until I felt really accurate at all speeds. What a huge difference that made because then I could not only know with say 90% certainty where the balls were going on a half ball hit at any speed but I could also adjust away from a half-ball hit either thinner or thicker and know where the balls were going. My safety game went up at least a ball or two after that.
 
I hope mike reads this and makes some more videos. I let him know the positive feedback last night as we played Gastropub Quiz last night at Fargo Billiards. He is a great instructor.




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In our book, Mike Page is one of our best.

Thanks for all the great comments
Randy Goettlicher
Chairperson for P.B.I.A


PS: Fargo Billiards is the best...amen

And the thing is you really do have a book listing the instructors.

:-)
 
Now that was a video well worth watching. I think i will be visiting at some time in the future. The lines on the table add so much to the information. Visual display concise and articulate. Thanks JoeyA for posting and Fargo/Mike for posting the content.


I would like to make a point to the people who suggest the use of side and draw or follow to affect the tangent line. I think you might be incorrect for this point with or without the side for a given collision point the tangent line is set and the cue ball will follow that "A" path (thanks mike) however the side english will affect the direction of the object ball not the cue ball. Now if you are jacked up when you stroke the ball you will actually have cue ball rotation around the path of the cue ball (masse spin) and this will definitely effect the result. A level cue the english (rotation around the vertical axis) has no affect on the cue ball after object ball collision until the cueball reaches a rail or another point of contact on the table.
 
Thank you to Joey A for posting. Mike page's videos as well as Joe Tucker's are very enjoyable.

I'm posting because I've been sucking lately and decided to hide behind my keyboard (no not a joke it's true) instead of practicing/playing

My 2 cents I think when people think they've changed the tangent line with English/Side/Side spin (don't know any other terms) its because they also cheated the pocket so they were never on the tangent line in the first place.
 
Thank you to Joey A for posting. Mike page's videos as well as Joe Tucker's are very enjoyable.

I'm posting because I've been sucking lately and decided to hide behind my keyboard (no not a joke it's true) instead of practicing/playing

My 2 cents I think when people think they've changed the tangent line with English/Side/Side spin (don't know any other terms) its because they also cheated the pocket so they were never on the tangent line in the first place.

Sir,

You are somewhat correct. It is a bit about wording. In Mr. Pages video, when he talks about the tangent line of the shot, let's asssume he is talking about pocketing the ball into the center of the pocket. In the video Mr. Page talks about 'changing' the path of the cue ball from the 'normal' path that it would take by being hit in the center of the vertical axis. He propers changing that path of that center cue ball hit tangent line by hitting lower or higher on the vertical axis. That can be done.

If one cheats the pocket one way or the other, the path of the cue ball will be changed from that of pocketing the ball in the center. Technically there is a new tangent line.

If one says that they can change the tangent line by doing that without a complete explanation & clarification, some would argue that it can't done. They will argue until it is said 'a different tangent line' or 'a new tangent line'. Then they would say, 'oh well, you did not say that, you said change the tangent line & that can not be done because a tangent line can't be changed, you can just create another different tangent line.

In both case the path of the cue ball has been changed from what it would have been from the original propostion of pockeing the ball in the center of the pocket with a center hit on the cue ball.

There have been quite a few discussions turned arguement because one woud say 'change the tangent line'. To some that can not be a correct statement unless it is carified by adding 'from the original to a new tangent line'.

It's not what can & can not be done that is the arguement but how one explained it that is the real argument. IMHO there is too much of that happening on AZB, arguement for the sake of argueing instead of trying to actually communicate. It has been lessoned a bit with a few bans recently.

I hope that makes clear that it is the cue ball path from a certain tangent line that is being changed or a new tangent line created by cheating the pocket. A 'tangent line' can not be changed by definition. That is what they will argue, not the fact the cue ball path can not be changed.

I hope your game picks up.

Regards to You &
 
Thank you to Joey A for posting. Mike page's videos as well as Joe Tucker's are very enjoyable.

I'm posting because I've been sucking lately and decided to hide behind my keyboard (no not a joke it's true) instead of practicing/playing

My 2 cents I think when people think they've changed the tangent line with English/Side/Side spin (don't know any other terms) its because they also cheated the pocket so they were never on the tangent line in the first place.

Sir,

You are somewhat correct. It is a bit about wording. In Mr. Pages video, when he talks about the tangent line of the shot, let's asssume he is talking about pocketing the ball into the center of the pocket. In the video Mr. Page talks about 'changing' the path of the cue ball from the 'normal' path that it would take by being hit in the center of the vertical axis. He propers changing that cue bal path from that center cue ball hit tangent line by hitting lower or higher on the vertical axis. That can be done.

If one cheats the pocket one way or the other, the path of the cue ball will be changed from that of pocketing the ball in the center. Technically there is a new tangent line. if one uses side soin to throw the ball, more tangent lines are available.

If one says that they can change the tangent line by doing that without a complete explanation & clarification, some would argue that it can't done. They will argue until it is said 'a different tangent line' or 'a new tangent line'. Then they would say, 'oh well, you did not say that, you said change the tangent line & that can not be done because a tangent line can't be changed, you can just create another different tangent line.

In both case the path of the cue ball has been changed from what it would have been from the original propostion of pockeing the ball in the center of the pocket with a center hit on the cue ball.

There have been quite a few discussions turned arguement because one woud say 'change the tangent line'. To some that can not be a correct statement unless it is carified by adding 'from the original to a new tangent line'.

It's not what can & can not be done that is the arguement but how one explained it that is the real argument. IMHO there is too much of that happening on AZB, arguement for the sake of argueing instead of trying to actually communicate. It has been lessoned a bit with a few bans recently.

I hope that makes clear that it is the cue ball path from a certain tangent line that is being changed or a new tangent line created by cheating the pocket. A 'tangent line' can not be changed by definition. That is what they will argue, not the fact that the cue ball path can not be changed.

I hope your game picks up.

Regards to You &
 
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