A ridiculous/crazy idea I just had

JesseBfan

JesseBfan

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Everyone wants to make the game tougher and tougher so why not play rotation games(9 ball or 10 ball) where you must break from where the cueball stops AFTER pocketing the moneyball. You'd have to get it behind the headstring even on combinations and if you didn't it would "spot" frozen to the headrail on the middle diamond. Sort of a hybrid of straight pool and rotation games....

Like I said, CRAZY!
 
Thats not that crazy!

I dont think theres anything wrong with the game, but for something new I like your idea!

All that crying about the break, gone! I hope someone trys it, you should tweet this out, Facebook it and see what happens.
 
JesseBfan said:
Everyone wants to make the game tougher and tougher so why not play rotation games(9 ball or 10 ball) where you must break from where the cueball stops AFTER pocketing the moneyball. You'd have to get it behind the headstring even on combinations and if you didn't it would "spot" frozen to the headrail on the middle diamond. Sort of a hybrid of straight pool and rotation games....

Like I said, CRAZY!
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I don't play 9 nor 10 ball so I'm not sure how this would affect the game, but I have to say that I noticed people here aren't very interested in new game ideas :confused: Maybe I got a wrong impression, but I also posted an idea about an 8 ball variant yeasterday and it had almost no responses. Maybe this forum needs a separate section about new/improved pool games and different variants of those.
 
Idk I just hear alot of people always talking about the game being broken or too easy for the pros so I thought this would make it tougher on a bunch of levels. You wouldn't be able to play to get straight in on the cash anymore so you'd see more moneyballs missed for one. You also would see guys breaking from the rail(literally) among other places that just wouldn't be comfortable. You'd have to break with strange bridges among other things. Just something I thought of cuz I once played a guy and spotted him that I would break from where the cueball stopped(had to be in the kitchen). It was interesting to say the least....
 
JesseBfan said:
Everyone wants to make the game tougher and tougher so why not play rotation games(9 ball or 10 ball) where you must break from where the cueball stops AFTER pocketing the moneyball. You'd have to get it behind the headstring even on combinations and if you didn't it would "spot" frozen to the headrail on the middle diamond. Sort of a hybrid of straight pool and rotation games....

Like I said, CRAZY!
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I played a 10 ball ring game with Efren once at HardTimes where the rule for Efren (but not anyone else) was that he had to get the cueball behind the headstring on his last shot and break from where it ended up, or else it was the next guy's turn to break. Efren ran four racks in a row this way and the last two times pocketing the 10 ball he drew the cueball from the other end of the table to about 2 to 3 inches behind the headstring for his break shot!
 
PoolBum said:
I played a 10 ball ring game with Efren once at HardTimes where the rule for Efren (but not anyone else) was that he had to get the cueball behind the headstring on his last shot and break from where it ended up, or else it was the next guy's turn to break. Efren ran four racks in a row this way and the last two times pocketing the 10 ball he drew the cueball from the other end of the table to about 2 to 3 inches behind the headstring for his break shot!
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In his hay day, Mr. Reyes could do anything! Best ever.

Trust me, it's a seriously tough thing to do.
 
JesseBfan said:
In his hay day, Mr. Reyes could do anything! Best ever.

Trust me, it's a seriously tough thing to do.
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Somehow in reading my post you seemed to have gotten the impression that I was saying that it was easy to bring the cueball behind the headstring on the last shot. The opposite is true, which is why Efren's doing it is impressive to begin with, and why I related the story.
 
PoolBum said:
Somehow in reading my post you seemed to have gotten the impression that I was saying that it was easy to bring the cueball behind the headstring on the last shot. The opposite is true, which is why Efren's doing it is impressive to begin with, and why I related the story.
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Oh definitely not, I didn't take that from your story. I was just relating to my experience that it was very difficult. I didn't think you meant otherwise at all.
 
This to me is not much different in style than playing "last pocket" 8 ball. It really doesn't make the game that much harder, it just makes you add another layer to your plan for running out.

For last pocket, you look around early for a key ball near the 8 that can go into the same pocket. Not difficult.

For 9 or 10 ball with your rules, you just look at the 2nd to last ball in a way that you can set yourself up for an angle for a shot that leaves you with a decent break shot.

In my opinion, spinning the cue ball around to get up table is not that difficult and just adds a minor challenge to the game.
 
PaulieB said:
This to me is not much different in style than playing "last pocket" 8 ball. It really doesn't make the game that much harder, it just makes you add another layer to your plan for running out.

For last pocket, you look around early for a key ball near the 8 that can go into the same pocket. Not difficult.

For 9 or 10 ball with your rules, you just look at the 2nd to last ball in a way that you can set yourself up for an angle for a shot that leaves you with a decent break shot.

In my opinion, spinning the cue ball around to get up table is not that difficult and just adds a minor challenge to the game.
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Sure, just getting in the kitchen, not that tough. But the element that makes it hard is that no two breaks will be from the same spot and a bunch of them will be from against the rail. And at least some percentage of the time, having to do so will cause misses on the cheese that otherwise wouldn't happen.
 
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