Accu-Rack dissapointment

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I bought a set that included basically everything Accu-Rack makes. All of the rack templates, and the training pack for drills and cue ball placement. From what I read, I was excited to get to use the racks and especially the "Table Saver" spots to place the cue ball on for breaking.

Many here extol the virtues of this product and I wonder what I am missing.

First, when I use the circular "Shark Skin Table Saver" pads under the cue ball for breaking, I get a blue stain spot on the cue ball. A stain that is difficult to remove. I contacted the owner about 5 times. He quickly responded and explained that it was a heat setting problem, that the problem has been corrected, and he would replace my set. After 4 attempts to remind him, and multiple promises that he would replace them, it's been months and no response. For this reason alone, I would not do business with him moving forward.

Second, and perhaps this is something I am not doing right? The racks break like duds. With a brand new, fresh out of the box, set of Predator Arcos II balls, in my old traditional wooden rack, the balls jump apart like they have been blasted by dynamite. When I use the Accu-Rack , and look with great care, and see clearly that all the balls are touching and the rack is tight, a very solid break stroke sends the outer balls flying, but the 8, and center balls, rarely move beyond even the edges of the rack. The 8, in particular, almost never moves at all. Again, maybe this is user error, but I know what a tight rack looks like and the Accu-Rack, with all balls gently pressed forward, produces an incredibly consistent tight rack. I can't really understand why it plays like a dud rack where the balls are not properly touching.

There are so many here who speak highly of template racks. What am I missing.
 
I have the Magic Rack set, so I have no experience with the Accu-Rack set.

But I will say, with the Magic Rack, I get excellent breaks, often even with a slower break. I have been unable to replicate the Magic Rack breaks using a traditional triangle.

Perhaps give them a try, just $13 on Amazon.

The Original Magic Billiard Ball Rack Combo 8 and 9-10 Ball Duo-Pack



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mrpiper said:
I bought a set that included basically everything Accu-Rack makes. All of the rack templates, and the training pack for drills and cue ball placement. From what I read, I was excited to get to use the racks and especially the "Table Saver" spots to place the cue ball on for breaking.

Many here extol the virtues of this product and I wonder what I am missing.

First, when I use the circular "Shark Skin Table Saver" pads under the cue ball for breaking, I get a blue stain spot on the cue ball. A stain that is difficult to remove. I contacted the owner about 5 times. He quickly responded and explained that it was a heat setting problem, that the problem has been corrected, and he would replace my set. After 4 attempts to remind him, and multiple promises that he would replace them, it's been months and no response. For this reason alone, I would not do business with him moving forward.

Second, and perhaps this is something I am not doing right? The racks break like duds. With a brand new, fresh out of the box, set of Predator Arcos II balls, in my old traditional wooden rack, the balls jump apart like they have been blasted by dynamite. When I use the Accu-Rack , and look with great care, and see clearly that all the balls are touching and the rack is tight, a very solid break stroke sends the outer balls flying, but the 8, and center balls, rarely move beyond even the edges of the rack. The 8, in particular, almost never moves at all. Again, maybe this is user error, but I know what a tight rack looks like and the Accu-Rack, with all balls gently pressed forward, produces an incredibly consistent tight rack. I can't really understand why it plays like a dud rack where the balls are not properly touching.

There are so many here who speak highly of template racks. What am I missing.
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If you're hitting the head ball, the 8 really shouldn't move in a perfectly tight rack unless you do something to make it move, like force the cb through the rack with spin. The most important thing on the accu rack is to load the balls then push like how the arrows on the rack show. Unless you got a bad rack or are doing something wrong they should be TIGHT as could be. Give them a few light forward taps with your finger tips. When they are tight you will feel no vibrations through the balls. If you're feeling vibrations they aren't tight, but this is the same thing with the magic rack.

Hope it gets sorted out, not sure what's going on. Maybe look on youtube?
Here's one of the older style ones, but the procedure is the same, the little push is what gets them really tight and you check them with the finger taps.
 
https://www.amazon.com/Accu-Rack-Outsville-Pool-Template-Diamond/dp/B07G6GQLFJ/ref=asc_df_B07G6GQLFJ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309835916383&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5437561262947805779&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9030154&hvtargid=pla-567872550134&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=60671418654&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=309835916383&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5437561262947805779&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9030154&hvtarghttps://www.amazon.com/Accu-Rack-Outsville-Pool-Template-Diamond/dp/B07G6GQLFJ/ref=asc_df_B07G6GQLFJ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309835916383&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5437561262947805779&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9030154&hvtargid=pla-567872550134&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=60671418654&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=309835916383&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5437561262947805779&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9030154&hvtargid=pla-567872550134id=pla-567872550134

People say Amazon stuff is returnable❓
 
CocoboloCowboy said:
https://www.amazon.com/Accu-Rack-Outsville-Pool-Template-Diamond/dp/B07G6GQLFJ/ref=asc_df_B07G6GQLFJ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309835916383&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5437561262947805779&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9030154&hvtargid=pla-567872550134&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=60671418654&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=309835916383&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5437561262947805779&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9030154&hvtarghttps://www.amazon.com/Accu-Rack-Outsville-Pool-Template-Diamond/dp/B07G6GQLFJ/ref=asc_df_B07G6GQLFJ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309835916383&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5437561262947805779&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9030154&hvtargid=pla-567872550134&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=60671418654&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=309835916383&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5437561262947805779&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9030154&hvtargid=pla-567872550134id=pla-567872550134

People say Amazon stuff is returnable
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Not sure if the OP purchased via Amazon. However, the return window is only 30 days for Amazon orders, he’s obviously beyond that.


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I just quit the accu rack after a few months of use, switched to magic rack with better results,
biggest issue was the centre ball(s) never moving, spreads are also not comparable to the magic rack
 
mrpiper said:
I bought a set that included basically everything Accu-Rack makes. All of the rack templates, and the training pack for drills and cue ball placement. From what I read, I was excited to get to use the racks and especially the "Table Saver" spots to place the cue ball on for breaking.

Many here extol the virtues of this product and I wonder what I am missing.

First, when I use the circular "Shark Skin Table Saver" pads under the cue ball for breaking, I get a blue stain spot on the cue ball. A stain that is difficult to remove. I contacted the owner about 5 times. He quickly responded and explained that it was a heat setting problem, that the problem has been corrected, and he would replace my set. After 4 attempts to remind him, and multiple promises that he would replace them, it's been months and no response. For this reason alone, I would not do business with him moving forward.

Second, and perhaps this is something I am not doing right? The racks break like duds. With a brand new, fresh out of the box, set of Predator Arcos II balls, in my old traditional wooden rack, the balls jump apart like they have been blasted by dynamite. When I use the Accu-Rack , and look with great care, and see clearly that all the balls are touching and the rack is tight, a very solid break stroke sends the outer balls flying, but the 8, and center balls, rarely move beyond even the edges of the rack. The 8, in particular, almost never moves at all. Again, maybe this is user error, but I know what a tight rack looks like and the Accu-Rack, with all balls gently pressed forward, produces an incredibly consistent tight rack. I can't really understand why it plays like a dud rack where the balls are not properly touching.

There are so many here who speak highly of template racks. What am I missing.
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The sign of a perfectly tight rack is that the 9-ball doesn’t move in a 9-ball break and the same for the 8-ball in an 8-ball break, unless they are contacted by another ball rebounding off a cushion.
 
My friends who are Finnish Pro players said years ago same things about accuracks that OP. So i agree even i don´t have first hand experience.
 
Personally I think the Accu-Rack is a much inferior product to the Magic Rack.
I had similar problems with mine.
 
I think the Mezz version is the best. It doesn’t get worn out like the accurack. I also like the magic rack, but I feel like the Mezz interferes with the roll of a ball less than the magic rack.
 
mrpiper said:
I bought a set that included basically everything Accu-Rack makes. All of the rack templates, and the training pack for drills and cue ball placement. From what I read, I was excited to get to use the racks and especially the "Table Saver" spots to place the cue ball on for breaking.

Many here extol the virtues of this product and I wonder what I am missing.

First, when I use the circular "Shark Skin Table Saver" pads under the cue ball for breaking, I get a blue stain spot on the cue ball. A stain that is difficult to remove. I contacted the owner about 5 times. He quickly responded and explained that it was a heat setting problem, that the problem has been corrected, and he would replace my set. After 4 attempts to remind him, and multiple promises that he would replace them, it's been months and no response. For this reason alone, I would not do business with him moving forward.

Second, and perhaps this is something I am not doing right? The racks break like duds. With a brand new, fresh out of the box, set of Predator Arcos II balls, in my old traditional wooden rack, the balls jump apart like they have been blasted by dynamite. When I use the Accu-Rack , and look with great care, and see clearly that all the balls are touching and the rack is tight, a very solid break stroke sends the outer balls flying, but the 8, and center balls, rarely move beyond even the edges of the rack. The 8, in particular, almost never moves at all. Again, maybe this is user error, but I know what a tight rack looks like and the Accu-Rack, with all balls gently pressed forward, produces an incredibly consistent tight rack. I can't really understand why it plays like a dud rack where the balls are not properly touching.

There are so many here who speak highly of template racks. What am I missing.
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Here is a post I did recently in a template rack discussion thread (the whole thread is interesting):

Best template rack?

There are several template racks available. Any preferences on which is the best - longest-lasting, holds them tightest, easiest to use?
forums.azbilliards.com

I did not like the accu-rack at all. I think they just market better, and so more people have heard about them and have tried them. Try the magic rack or the turtle rack.

Also, one thing to note is that (at least in my experience) with a perfectly tight rack the center ball actually won't move unless kicked by another ball on a rebound. If you are having your center ball move a lot right off the break then that is likely a result of a loose rack. If you are then evaluating the rack's effectiveness by the movement of the center ball then you will over-rate your wood rack break, and under-rate your template break.
 
I have an Accu-rack and a Delta Elite. My Accu-Rack works great, I always get good breaks with it and it wont crack like a Magic Rack, I can get a rack just as good with my Delta Elite, it just takes longer.
 
mrpiper said:
I bought a set that included basically everything Accu-Rack makes. All of the rack templates, and the training pack for drills and cue ball placement. From what I read, I was excited to get to use the racks and especially the "Table Saver" spots to place the cue ball on for breaking.

Many here extol the virtues of this product and I wonder what I am missing.

First, when I use the circular "Shark Skin Table Saver" pads under the cue ball for breaking, I get a blue stain spot on the cue ball. A stain that is difficult to remove. I contacted the owner about 5 times. He quickly responded and explained that it was a heat setting problem, that the problem has been corrected, and he would replace my set. After 4 attempts to remind him, and multiple promises that he would replace them, it's been months and no response. For this reason alone, I would not do business with him moving forward.

Second, and perhaps this is something I am not doing right? The racks break like duds. With a brand new, fresh out of the box, set of Predator Arcos II balls, in my old traditional wooden rack, the balls jump apart like they have been blasted by dynamite. When I use the Accu-Rack , and look with great care, and see clearly that all the balls are touching and the rack is tight, a very solid break stroke sends the outer balls flying, but the 8, and center balls, rarely move beyond even the edges of the rack. The 8, in particular, almost never moves at all. Again, maybe this is user error, but I know what a tight rack looks like and the Accu-Rack, with all balls gently pressed forward, produces an incredibly consistent tight rack. I can't really understand why it plays like a dud rack where the balls are not properly touching.

There are so many here who speak highly of template racks. What am I missing.
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I know I am 75 years old but for goodness sakes just take a wooden triangle,
push the balls tight and play pool. How did pool ever survive all these years without this nonsense?
And of course now you have this piece of junk laying on the table after you break.
And yes i am ready for the Geezer comments
 
bummer..sounds like a bad batch
my accu-racks from 2019 play pretty good tho
weird about the blue stain, I haven't experienced that either
 
CanadianGuy said:
I just quit the accu rack after a few months of use, switched to magic rack with better results,
biggest issue was the centre ball(s) never moving, spreads are also not comparable to the magic rack
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The center ball should not move in a good rack much at all. I don't like template racks for 8 ball, on a decent table I get at least as good of a result in the same amount of time as with a template rack. For 9 or 10 ball the template racks are way ahead of the wood triangle.
 
My last two accurack sets weren’t great. I got a 2020 set and the ten ball gapped the back two middle balls. The 10 always shot back out of the rack. Nine ball wouldn’t cooperate either with the wings balls setting off the nine and bottom ball being off one side or the other. I tried a couple different ball sets and all were in good like new condition. Renfro said it was a issue with the new design and sent me another one. It wasn’t much better. My sets from 2015 and 2018 were good though.
 
Perma-rack:

Perma-Rack

Here is my Ebay listing for the Perma-Rack. These are amazing...
forums.azbilliards.com

It's hands-down the best racking system I've ever used. I don't know why people are so hesitant to try it, but I shill for it wherever I can.
 
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