angle familiarization need help

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hello to all members i want to ask/get some info about angle familiarization in pool..the easy straight shot is easy to determine what angle is it but i have a difficulty regarding more angle like we say i have a shot like a half ball hit in my guess but when i shot it i make the shot little bit thin so i think the shot is nearly/almost a halfball hit it is a 5/8 shot..i have also not familiar in 15,30,45.60 degrees shot thats my weakness :embarrassed2: how to know the exact shot angle and i miss the winning shot :angry: thanks for the help and for the comments godbless
 
hello to all members i want to ask/get some info about angle familiarization in pool..the easy straight shot is easy to determine what angle is it but i have a difficulty regarding more angle like we say i have a shot like a half ball hit in my guess but when i shot it i make the shot little bit thin so i think the shot is nearly/almost a halfball hit it is a 5/8 shot..i have also not familiar in 15,30,45.60 degrees shot thats my weakness :embarrassed2: how to know the exact shot angle and i miss the winning shot :angry: thanks for the help and for the comments godbless
Here's a method that works for me:

Pre-align with great care, so as to get your bridge into a precise line that you perceive as the line for the pot. During this process, allow your eyes to take in the relevant data of CB, OB and line to pocket.

Once the bridge is set, stroke straight through the center line of the CB. Do not let the bridge move one iota and do not move your head. Observe the line the CB takes and the resultant OB direction. This builds your memory of angles. If the head moves, the memory is distorted and less useful.

Hit the shots hard. 2 reasons. 1. This reduces the influence of swooping. 2. This reduces the amount of throw (Softer shots throw more, so you have to aim them thinner).

Practice some of these without looking at the OB during the execution, this will help you to focus on good pre-alignment without the need to swoop or move the bridge to make the shot (which is what most players learn to do).

Do this as often as possible. Several hours per day will teach you how to see when you're properly pre-aligned after a few days, once you've developed good fundamentals... that part can takes months if you're a beginner.
 
Here's a method that works for me:

Pre-align with great care, so as to get your bridge into a precise line that you perceive as the line for the pot. During this process, allow your eyes to take in the relevant data of CB, OB and line to pocket.

Once the bridge is set, stroke straight through the center line of the CB. Do not let the bridge move one iota and do not move your head. Observe the line the CB takes and the resultant OB direction. This builds your memory of angles. If the head moves, the memory is distorted and less useful.

Hit the shots hard. 2 reasons. 1. This reduces the influence of swooping. 2. This reduces the amount of throw (Softer shots throw more, so you have to aim them thinner).

Practice some of these without looking at the OB during the execution, this will help you to focus on good pre-alignment without the need to swoop or move the bridge to make the shot (which is what most players learn to do).

Do this as often as possible. Several hours per day will teach you how to see when you're properly pre-aligned after a few days, once you've developed good fundamentals... that part can takes months if you're a beginner.

Well there is *hard* and *too hard* - be careful with such advices :-) lol^^
 
hello to all members i want to ask/get some info about angle familiarization in pool..the easy straight shot is easy to determine what angle is it but i have a difficulty regarding more angle like we say i have a shot like a half ball hit in my guess but when i shot it i make the shot little bit thin so i think the shot is nearly/almost a halfball hit it is a 5/8 shot..i have also not familiar in 15,30,45.60 degrees shot thats my weakness :embarrassed2: how to know the exact shot angle and i miss the winning shot :angry: thanks for the help and for the comments godbless
Fractional aiming and contact point to contact point aiming can be tricky at times. I like using the ghost ball sighting method to help me find where I should aim the center of the cue ball. Once I determine a spot on the cloth, I focus aiming through the vertical axis of the cue ball to that spot. In the picture attached, you can see this is a half ball hit at approximately 45 degrees. The spot on the cloth would be right under the left edge of the object ball. You can use the base, or top of the cue ball to help sight this. For a full ball hit I would just aim the base of the cue ball through the base of the object ball. To help you find the center of the ghost ball in relation to the contact point on the object ball, try using a piece of chalk. Place the edge of the chalk next to the contact point on the object ball and the opposite edge of the chalk will be very close to the ghost ball center, which is where you would aim the center of the cue ball.
 

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... In the picture attached, you can see this is a half ball hit at approximately 45 degrees. ...

A half-ball aim/hit produces a 30° cut, not a 45° cut. The portion of the picture that shows the CB center aimed at the 9-ball edge is incorrect for that shot. The center of the CB should be aimed well outside the edge of the 9-ball for a 47° cut, not at the edge of the 9-ball.
 
Well there is *hard* and *too hard* - be careful with such advices :-) lol^^
I don't mind smashing them when training angle alignment. So long as you bridge about an inch behind the pivot point, around 10 inches for most cues and up to 15 inches for the z2 shaft. That inch behind will pretty much cancel out any unintentional swooping. Naturally, that's not a good strategy for match play.

A lot of players really struggle when they hit hard because hard hitting makes it hard to swoop, and many players subconsciously swoop left or right on a lot of soft shots to make them. It's a habit that develops from lazy pre-alignment.

Personally I think this is the major reason CTE aiming works so well for many. They work diligently on the pre-alignment aspect and on taking swoops or any bridge twitches out of their stroke, even if the pot doesn't look exactly right.

By practicing shots over and over, their pre-alignment will get better and better. That is just my opinion, I'm not a CTE expert or proponent.
 
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I don't mind smashing them when training angle alignment. So long as you bridge about an inch behind the pivot point, around 10 inches for most cues and up to 15 inches for the z2 shaft. That inch behind will pretty much cancel out any unintentional swooping. Naturally, that's not a good strategy for match play.

A lot of players really struggle when they hit hard because hard hitting makes it hard to swoop, and many players subconsciously swoop left or right on a lot of soft shots to make them. It's a habit that develops from lazy pre-alignment.

Personally I think this is the major reason CTE aiming works so well for many. They work diligently on the pre-alignment aspect and on taking swoops or any bridge twitches out of their stroke, even if the pot doesn't look exactly right.

By practicing shots over and over, their pre-alignment will get better and better. That is just my opinion, I'm not a CTE expert or proponent.

PSR improvements naturally occur as a result of using CTE but that in NO way is the reason why CTE works.

Stan Shuffett
 
PSR = ?
Seen it mentioned a few times, but not familiar with this abbreviation.

PSR -, Pre Shot Routine
In CTE there is a visual alignment that occurs for every single shot. It never ceases. Shot after shot after shot. You are correct in saying it's hugely beneficial but alignment in and of itself is not why. CTE works.
Stan Shuffett
 
PSR -, Pre Shot Routine
In CTE there is a visual alignment that occurs for every single shot. It never ceases. Shot after shot after shot. You are correct in saying it's hugely beneficial but alignment in and of itself is not why. CTE works.
Stan Shuffett
Thanks for the quick reply Stan.

FWIW: Another aspect of CTE, which I haven't seen raised as a potential reason for its success is a focus on the CB and OB, with little if any regard for focusing on the pocket. Some recent practice, where I eliminate glancing toward the pocket during the later stages of the Pre Shot Routine, have helped to get a more consistent and accurate alignment.

Just food for thought, not a challenge or question.

Colin
 
Thanks for the quick reply Stan.

FWIW: Another aspect of CTE, which I haven't seen raised as a potential reason for its success is a focus on the CB and OB, with little if any regard for focusing on the pocket. Some recent practice, where I eliminate glancing toward the pocket during the later stages of the Pre Shot Routine, have helped to get a more consistent and accurate alignment.

Just food for thought, not a challenge or question.

Colin

I can see that.

In CTE the pocket location is mostly insignificant. A pocket is nothing more than a right angle that is part of a 2x1 table. CTE PRO ONE takes a player's aim to right angles and to boot, does so with slight over cuts.

CB OB alignments offer up distortions. In CTE one can learn to ignore the distortions and just stroke straight, trusting the system. The steering that I do these days is limited to my car.

Stan Shuffett
 
I can see that.

In CTE the pocket location is mostly insignificant. A pocket is nothing more than a right angle that is part of a 2x1 table. CTE PRO ONE takes a player's aim to right angles and to boot, does so with slight over cuts.

CB OB alignments offer up distortions. In CTE one can learn to ignore the distortions and just stroke straight, trusting the system. The steering that I do these days is limited to my car.

Stan Shuffett
Nice pun re steering :)
 
A half-ball aim/hit produces a 30° cut, not a 45° cut. The portion of the picture that shows the CB center aimed at the 9-ball edge is incorrect for that shot. The center of the CB should be aimed well outside the edge of the 9-ball for a 47° cut, not at the edge of the 9-ball.
Thanks for letting me know. I think I drunk-pasted it. It's fixed now.
 
hello to all members i want to ask/get some info about angle familiarization in pool..the easy straight shot is easy to determine what angle is it but i have a difficulty regarding more angle like we say i have a shot like a half ball hit in my guess but when i shot it i make the shot little bit thin so i think the shot is nearly/almost a halfball hit it is a 5/8 shot..i have also not familiar in 15,30,45.60 degrees shot thats my weakness :embarrassed2: how to know the exact shot angle and i miss the winning shot :angry: thanks for the help and for the comments godbless
Just another note for you. The 15, 30, 45 cut angles are the most common. Someone once told me that the 30 degree cut angle is by far the most common, with a statistical weight of %90 of all cut angles. This is a half ball hit. Practice making that shot a lot.
 

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... Someone once told me that the 30 degree cut angle is by far the most common, with a statistical weight of %90 of all cut angles. ...

Try using a half-ball aim/hit on every shot you face for a while. I predict that far fewer than 90% of them find the intended pocket.
 
Try using a half-ball aim/hit on every shot you face for a while. I predict that far fewer than 90% of them find the intended pocket.
How many angles would you say there are on a regulation table that deliver the object ball to a pocket? BTW, would you care to share with us which aiming method you use for a half-ball hit?
 
hello to all members i want to ask/get some info about angle familiarization in pool..the easy straight shot is easy to determine what angle is it but i have a difficulty regarding more angle like we say i have a shot like a half ball hit in my guess but when i shot it i make the shot little bit thin so i think the shot is nearly/almost a halfball hit it is a 5/8 shot..i have also not familiar in 15,30,45.60 degrees shot thats my weakness :embarrassed2: how to know the exact shot angle and i miss the winning shot :angry: thanks for the help and for the comments godbless

As far as pure shot angle recognition, have a look here:

http://www.billiardsthegame.com/estimating-the-shot-angle-187
 
Try using a half-ball aim/hit on every shot you face for a while. I predict that far fewer than 90% of them find the intended pocket.

I predict that about 60-70% of them will find the pocket.

30 degrees is the most common angle found in pool.
Not only the most common but the angle that is the easiest to work off of.

randyg
 
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