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Another 3C Diagrams Site
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Thanks for the link. I always enjoy these.
Thanks for trying, but, as is too often the case, all of the diagrams are wrong. The lines should never touch the cushions or the other balls. As drawn, the lines do not represent anything that would help a player understand the shot.
This is not a nit. All of the good books and web sites show lines which actually approximate the true paths of the balls. See Byrne, Robin, Caudron, Ceulemans, or Hupper, for example.
Any time the diagrams have lines touching balls and cushions, it shows serious lack of attention to detail, which, in three cushion, is disastrous.
Flame me, if you like, but I will not give up trying to tell it like it is.
Mark
Nothing is ever in a true line. What seem a true line to one is not true to another. Even if they use the same measuring devices.
No Matter what you do there alway an - or + error. Live with it. Its Life.
Mark. Let see your diagram drawing of these shots. Even if only one diagram. So we might discuss what wrong with your diagram.
No Matter what you do there alway an - or + error. Live with it. Its Life.
Mark. Let see your diagram drawing of these shots. Even if only one diagram. So we might discuss what wrong with your diagram.
Bob,
I am not trying to be difficult.
The line should (approximate) the path followed by the center of the ball (or by the vertical axis passing through the center), and the central axis of the ball (almost) never touches another ball or cushion.
I say "approximate" because it is virtually impossible to draw the parabolic curves which occur after many ball or cushion contacts. I say "almost" because the base of the ball could touch a ball or cushion if the ball is airborne and lands on top of another ball or cushion.
Diagrams where lines touch balls or cushions are misleading, at best. Such diagrams almost never show the correct line of aim.
Hope this helps.
Mark
There only one problem - there no line drawn on an actual table- its all in your mind. Most shot are drawn after the fact and all drawing are approximate. Might as well throw out all the Napkin.
I'll just play and enjoy the game
Question: What percent of the ball actually travel the same line that is drawn the first time and every time aftward??
I'll just play and enjoy the game
Question: What percent of the ball actually travel the same line that is drawn the first time and every time aftward??
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OK, you won't listen to me. Maybe you'll listen to Robert Byrne.
This is from Bob's first book, "Byrne's Standard Book of Pool and Billiards", First Edition, 1978, page 187: "Note also that the lines represent the paths taken by the center of the balls, which is why they do not touch the rails or other balls. ... Other books on pool and billiards draw lines connecting contact ppoints, which can be very misleading."
Mark
This is from Bob's first book, "Byrne's Standard Book of Pool and Billiards", First Edition, 1978, page 187: "Note also that the lines represent the paths taken by the center of the balls, which is why they do not touch the rails or other balls. ... Other books on pool and billiards draw lines connecting contact ppoints, which can be very misleading."
Mark
The point is Mark a diagram in Billiard is to show a shot and the path it might take or will take. It take longer to draw a perfect diagram, when you can shot the shoot twenty times to know the shot.
97% don't care if someone diagrams flaw or not. the 3% can waste their time to make their diagrams flawless. Some part of the ball is touching and we know the center never touch anything.
Oversize , undersize, left, or right. Shoot the Shot!
97% don't care if someone diagrams flaw or not. the 3% can waste their time to make their diagrams flawless. Some part of the ball is touching and we know the center never touch anything.
Oversize , undersize, left, or right. Shoot the Shot!
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