Another cheap cue question - advice please...

djp2k6

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I am wondering how my game would be affected if I bought a cheap Players cue and put a good tip on it. Can anyone give any advice. I'm not looking for input on quality, feel, hit, but in real playing situations would it hurt? If so, how exactly? It seems as long as the tip is good, the shaft is hardrock maple and straight, and you get used to it, it shouldn't cause any problems. I've been playing about 20 years and have been shooting with a Pechauer the last 5 or so. Thanks for any input.
 
I don't know how anybody could answer this question better than yourself.
 
Well, I've never had a $75 cue before. Maybe someone who is knowledgeable about building cues. I guess the only problem I can think of would be if the cue didn't react the same repeatedly under the same conditions.
 
I have played with a lot of production cues including Schon, Joss, Pechauer, Predator, Muecci, etc. I had always kind of looked down on Players cues because I thought a cue that inexpensive must be a piece of crap. Recently my brother came home with a new Players cue. I was very impressed with the quality of the cue. It has nice sharp points, an Acculoc (uniloc) joint, and a nice straight grained maple shaft. I tried the cue out and it played very well to my suprise. They have a fairly soft feel / hit but I got very good cueball action with it. I think the feel is similar to a Pechauer without the stainless joint and your game should not suffer any. I would recommend a Players cue to anyone on a limited budget.
 
I've been considering doing something similar with a players or a J&J. I only want to use it for breaking and maybe jumping. Thought I'd put a Triangle tip on. My only concern is if I need to also change the ferrule.

Terry
 
The maple won't be top grade, but certainly good enough to play with. Just make sure the taper and diameter are to your liking and it should play just fine.

The only thing I can think of it "hurting" you game is that you'll be unfamiliar with how it plays -- but this will be the same if the cue is $100 or $10,000.

djp2k6 said:
I am wondering how my game would be affected if I bought a cheap Players cue and put a good tip on it. Can anyone give any advice. I'm not looking for input on quality, feel, hit, but in real playing situations would it hurt? If so, how exactly? It seems as long as the tip is good, the shaft is hardrock maple and straight, and you get used to it, it shouldn't cause any problems. I've been playing about 20 years and have been shooting with a Pechauer the last 5 or so. Thanks for any input.
 
metal5d said:
It has nice sharp points, an Acculoc (uniloc) joint, and a nice straight grained maple shaft.
Just a side note. These are two different types of joints. It either has one or the other. Not both. I suspect that it's a acculoc joint similar to a Viking.
 
I've had the opportunity to play with two different Players cues, and my experience has been that it's actually a pretty decent cue for the money. I don't think it would hurt your game at all.
 
The BEST Player, who won the Big Prize in a local tournament last weekend with 30 Entrants. play with a House Cue. He won because of his SKILL....

But a Poor Cue with a Good Tips is betteer than a Good Cue with a Poor Tip....
 
If you just want it for jumping and breaking, for $95.00, you can pick this up from Proficient: http://www.proficientbilliards.com/cart/customer/product.php?productid=17206&cat=0&page=

It's a modified Players Jump/Break cue -- here's how they describe it: "This is a modified by Proficient Players jump break cue. It comes with one 13mm shaft and special mods."

I bought one a few weeks ago, and I think it makes a good j/b cue for the price. I'm not sure what all of Proficient's "special mods" are, but they seem to include a hard ferrule and an extremely hard leather tip. When I break with it, there's a sound similar to a phenolic tip (a higher pitch, almost clanky, sound than what you hear when breaking with a regular tip).

Cory
 
Cory in DC said:
If you just want it for jumping and breaking, for $95.00, you can pick this up from Proficient: http://www.proficientbilliards.com/cart/customer/product.php?productid=17206&cat=0&page=

It's a modified Players Jump/Break cue -- here's how they describe it: "This is a modified by Proficient Players jump break cue. It comes with one 13mm shaft and special mods."

I bought one a few weeks ago, and I think it makes a good j/b cue for the price. I'm not sure what all of Proficient's "special mods" are, but they seem to include a hard ferrule and an extremely hard leather tip. When I break with it, there's a sound similar to a phenolic tip (a higher pitch, almost clanky, sound than what you hear when breaking with a regular tip).

Cory

Thanks for the link, that may do just what I'm looking for a cheapy to do for me. I was looking at $90 local (Players)then the cost of changing tip and ferrule.

Terry
 
like the others say........as long as the cue is straight, is the length, weight, etc that you like, theres no difference. Best player in my area has a $10,000szamboti but shoots with a $100 cuetec that he loves. That being said, if youre going to play pool any length of time and get good at it, you will move up, its inevitable. One of the nice things about trying cheaper sticks out is you will find things you like about it over time..........that will help you narrow down what kind of stick you like in the future, so lets say you get to where you want a nice custom built, you'll know what type joint, piloted or not,what weight, what taper, full splice blank, etc etc. Im in the process of ordering a cheap cue right now thats going to be alot bigger on the back end than any custom cue ive seen, just to try it out. In 6 years when my name is at the top of herceks list im gonna know exactly what i want
 
I've got a Players (Hercules tip), Joss sneaky pete, and a custom cue made by a local cuemaker who does great work, and I honestly can't tell a lot of difference. I would highly recommend Players and the Hercules tip (but the tip will take a little getting used to).
 
Just curious why you would want to buy a cheap cue when you have a Pechauer?

Last week I picked up a 1990 McDermott Eagle cue with a 2x4 Guiseppe case for $110. I just couldn't pass up the deal. I also have a 1990 Wolf.

Anyway I was going to try and sell it but I decided to play with it and found out it is great. Much better than my Schon or SouthWest. Now I have to find out what kind of tip is on it because I believe that is what makes it so great. Probably a 25¢ LePro. But whatever it is when I find out I will put it on all my shafts. Well, maybe not on the SouthWest.

And Miller won his IPT card with a $3.00 cue (According to Alex). Really a Dufferin butt and a Schon shaft.

And last night I won $35 with it in the local bar tournament so my deal only cost me $75.

Life is good.

Jake
 
I once watched a former world top 10 snooker player come into the room one morning and while waiting for his manager to drop off his cue from the repair guy, he picked a house cue outa the rack and promptly knocked in a century.
It aint the cue it's the player, anything over a hundred bucks is just jewelry imho.
 
I always played with an McDermott, which isn't top-of-the-line but a very decent cue nonetheless. Two months ago I shipped it back to the factory and started playing with my old break-cue which is a 40$ Brown Boy, no weights or nothing just solid wood and paint, with a metal joint and one week later I broke my straight pool record with it. I let someone take it to the EC for veterans, who also has a Longoni, and he played with the Brown Boy. So if you like the feel of the cue, put a decent tip on, the price doesn't matter, that's just for cosmetics. All opinion off course, no facts here.
 
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