tomatoshooter
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What's at the top?
Any pros still playing with Ex Pro?
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As compared to all the freshly released product that is marketed as garbage and not worth buying....lol.
I'm not sure what you're hoping for. Seems like you think you provided all the possible answers with your question. So why you pick your fav and save the forum the time in having their efforts tossed back at them
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Ignite, and in extremely close second is what I believe is a "Bull"... My dealer brought a few in. Neat little system that allows you to buy one shaft and change joint inserts to accomidate whatever. Sounds gimmicky I know, but the hit felt great to me.
I will openly say that I have not hit anything Cuetec and have read the typical reviews here about it's greatness.
Please do not assume you know what I think or that you speak for the forum. Thank you.
Do NOT base your equipment choice(s) on what pros use.
The Revo is it's own kind of animal for CF shafts, it is one of the few that do not hit like a wood shaft, which is half the point of having a CF shaft over a wood one. I find that people that do not like the Revo are looking for a CF shaft that feels more like a wood shaft. Which is exactly why I like the Revo, because it does not. I mean what is the point of looking for a new type of shaft that is the same as the other shafts we already have?
The Ignite is a close second to the Revo to having it's own type of hit feel. The OB Carbon would be a third, although that is closer to the wood shafts than Revo or Ignite. The others all are very similar to wood LD shafts so really are nothing special past the material they are made of.
I've played with CF shafts from every larger manufacturer and for me the Revo and the OB Carbon are the top two and Ignite comes in second. Meucci and Cuetec are probably my least favorite, they are basically hit like medium LD wood shafts, similar to a 314 style shaft. Jacoby, and some others are just so-so, again nothing that would make me swap from a wood shaft to use them.
Fair enough. But I'm still curious about my original question - why have most (if not all) pros moved away from Ex Pro? I hear the point some users are trying to make ("you need to ask the pros"), but I doubt most pros would be honest and upfront about it if there's anything bad they have to say about a product from their sponsors. That's why I was interested in hearing what's the opinion of the general AZB population. I guess there are folks here that are certainly better informed than most to make that educated guess.
You really think anyone on here would know?? Again, WHY does this matter? Did you buy one and now regret it because pros may/may not use it? Why not ask Mezz directly.
Yup.
Curiosity.
Ha ha, how exactly do you envision that conversation to go?
How many, IF any, AZr's do you think are in anything remotely resembling 'regular contact' with ANY Mezz pros much less any that may or may not have recently ditched this shaft??? AGAIN, why is this important? 'Curiousity' is a cop-out answer. Has to be a reason for pursuing this.Yup.
Curiosity.
Ha ha, how exactly do you envision that conversation to go?
Yup.
Curiosity.
Ha ha, how exactly do you envision that conversation to go?
Hi Mr Pro player, I am curious why you are using this shaft and not the other?
A. You get an answer
B. You don't
It's always easier to go to the source that would know. It's not like pro pool players are hard to find or approach.
I mean, I want to know if the pros feel there is something inherently wrong with the Ex Pro. If there's truth to what Straightpool_99 hypothesized on the first page. I'm genuinely curious about it. Not really sure what other reason I could give you.
My post was in response to garczar suggesting I ask Mezz, not the pros.
But even if we go by your suggestion and ask the pros, I don't think any pro that is sponsored by Mezz would be open to bashing a Mezz product, so if you go to Mezz or Mezz players, it's unlikely you'll hear bad things about one of their products.
You would get the same answer from Mezz, they either tell you and you will know, or they won't and you look in another place to find out, like the person using the shaft. I mean what do you expect, all of the shafts to be exactly the same? Why is picking one shaft mean the other one is a bad product? As I said before, just because you picked a shaft does not make the other one "worse" in any way to anyone else. Personal preference. For every 10 people playing with one cue, there are 10 others that like another cue just as much, and another 15 that like some third cue. Shafts and cues are not specific good or bad things, it's what the person plays well with and likes. For some reason a lot of people think that finding the "best" cue or shaft is simply a matter of asking on AZB and picking one that most people agree they like best, it's not. Otherwise every manufacturer will just make one "best" shaft to sell instead of making several for people to pick their own favorite from.
Just because someone picked steak over sushi does not mean sushi is a "worse" product, maybe the person just thinks raw fish is "icky". Are redheads hotter than blondes? Again, depends on who you ask, but there is no universally accepted "better" or more correct or incorrect choice.
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tomatoshooter
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I've heard of the "Bull". I wasn't sure if the interchangeable joint was a good idea or a gimmick. Next time I'm in the market for a carbon shaft, I'll have to check one out.
Like most things in life, we tend to want to assign meaning to things. Sometimes there is, but mostly, it’s just fairly random.
The amount of players sponsored by either predator or mezz are incredibly low sample sizes.
It could literally be dumb luck (random) that the mezz players prefer a carbon shaft.
The only way to even begin to know would be to poll both companies’ sponsored players. Anything else is just head banging against vertical uprights attached to the ceiling.
The amount of players sponsored by either predator or mezz are incredibly low sample sizes.
It could literally be dumb luck (random) that the mezz players prefer a carbon shaft.
The only way to even begin to know would be to poll both companies’ sponsored players. Anything else is just head banging against vertical uprights attached to the ceiling.
Exactly, one would think that to be the case, right? And like I mentioned in my original post - that seems to be the case with Predator products - you still get a lot of pros playing with all of their various wooden offerings. Not so with Mezz. That's why this thread was started in the first place.
I mean, it's all there in the original post.
Meh. *Could be*, but not likely, I guess. How come 90+ percent of Predator pros don't prefer the carbon shaft?
Meh. *Could be*, but not likely, I guess. How come 90+ percent of Predator pros don't prefer the carbon shaft?
Is that actual numbers or just your guess? Different players, different shafts, same as every other answer.