Anyone ever had a subrail fall off?

ChesapeakeBlrds

ChesapeakeBlrds

Chesapeake Billiards
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So we are working on an older Imperial table today, and we go to put a feather strip in and the subrail came loose. It break off cleanly from the top rail, it is still somewhat attached, but I have never seen or heard of this. Any ideas on how to re-adhere the subrail to the top rail.
 
Unsure of the exact model, furniture style in very bad shape. Why would I need to "cover my ass" like I made this happen? It seems like an easy fix, as I will most likely follow the exact same method that they used to fasten it in the first place.

Hypothetical question here though, at Imperial who would you talk to that even knew one single thing about the engineering of there tables? When it comes to industry "know how" they really don't know a thing.

That is why I ask here and not the useless manufacturer. Obviously no glue and brads would eventually fall apart.
 
ChesapeakeBlrds said:
Unsure of the exact model, furniture style in very bad shape. Why would I need to "cover my ass" like I made this happen? It seems like an easy fix, as I will most likely follow the exact same method that they used to fasten it in the first place.

Hypothetical question here though, at Imperial who would you talk to that even knew one single thing about the engineering of there tables? When it comes to industry "know how" they really don't know a thing.

That is why I ask here and not the useless manufacturer. Obviously no glue and brads would eventually fall apart.
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easy fix? ....what are you going to do; wood glue and some clamps?
 
Glue and clamps

Gorilla glue (not too much as it expands and will get everywhere). Then clamp it in numerous places along the rail. The old T rails had the sub rails glued to the sides and hardwood tops with no nails and that worked fine. The key is a clean work surface and getting it positioned correctly.
 
I always have better results with Titebond II. Gorilla glue doesn't really adhere like Titebond II will. The last few projects I did with Gorilla glue did not end up as well.
 
If anybody hasn't used PL Premium for wood to wood gluing its amazing and very permanent. I only suggest brad nailing because sometimes tightening the clamps will cause the peices to slide on each other a bit.
 
ChesapeakeBlrds said:
Unsure of the exact model, furniture style in very bad shape. Why would I need to "cover my ass" like I made this happen? It seems like an easy fix, as I will most likely follow the exact same method that they used to fasten it in the first place.

Hypothetical question here though, at Imperial who would you talk to that even knew one single thing about the engineering of there tables? When it comes to industry "know how" they really don't know a thing.

That is why I ask here and not the useless manufacturer. Obviously no glue and brads would eventually fall apart.
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I would be concerned that the customer would think the damage was caused by the mechanic if you were willing to fix it without seeing if the table was under waranty. You might get new rails for the table, they do have lifetime warranty on there home tables.
 
sdbilliards said:
I would be concerned that the customer would think the damage was caused by the mechanic if you were willing to fix it without seeing if the table was under waranty. You might get new rails for the table, they do have lifetime warranty on there home tables.
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Yea good point, I will let him know that but this table has to be close 15 years old, and I would be afraid that do not have a thing even close to matching it.
 
ChesapeakeBlrds said:
Yea good point, I will let him know that but this table has to be close 15 years old, and I would be afraid that do not have a thing even close to matching it.
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At one point back then they were having their tables made by Connelly. You should check and made sure your rail bolts are too long, this can cause the rail to separate. why don't you post some pictures?
 
Glue

Jim Vondrell said:
If anybody hasn't used PL Premium for wood to wood gluing its amazing and very permanent. I only suggest brad nailing because sometimes tightening the clamps will cause the peices to slide on each other a bit.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I am almost out of Gorilla glue, so I will pick up some of this and some of the Titebond for comparison.
 
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