APA and jump cues

jrt I hope this helps.

Thank you for contacting the APA National Office. In regards to your
question on changing cues, it is not prohibited to change cues during
the match as long as you are not breaking down. Next, the question on
the time out I would refer to the Official Team Manual page 25, section
11 coaching. The situation described below would be considered coaching
due to it is giving advice as to which ball to shoot.

Please remember to check all local bylaws in regards to these questions.
You may also contact your Local League Office for further clarification.
Thank you for your past, present and future participation within APA
Leagues.

Good Luck and Good Shooting,

April Shepherd
Franchise Consultant
American Poolplayers Association, Inc.
 
kaznj said:
jrt I hope this helps.

Thank you for contacting the APA National Office. In regards to your
question on changing cues, it is not prohibited to change cues during
the match as long as you are not breaking down. Next, the question on
the time out I would refer to the Official Team Manual page 25, section
11 coaching. The situation described below would be considered coaching
due to it is giving advice as to which ball to shoot.

Please remember to check all local bylaws in regards to these questions.
You may also contact your Local League Office for further clarification.
Thank you for your past, present and future participation within APA
Leagues.

Good Luck and Good Shooting,

April Shepherd
Franchise Consultant
American Poolplayers Association, Inc.
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it sure does. i am going to contact them and ask them wtf? why are they handing out different info than what they clearly state in thier own rule book. f*cking idiots. just another reason i have been moving away from leagues and playing in more tournaments.
 
just sent this to the jackasses at the apa national office. can't wait to see a response.
my question is related to which cue you may use to execute a jump shot. the following is from the rule book i was given as team captain:
taken from pg.40 of the 2008/2009 - 2009/2010 rule book under the section "equipment"
"in general, any piece of equipment designed specifically for pocket billiards, with the exception of jump cues and laser devices, is acceptable in apa league play. special equipment, such as bridges and cue extenders are legal. jump shots are legal, when executed properly (see jump shots described in definitions), but such shots must be attempted using your regular game cue (see regular game cue described in definitions). those cues especially designed for jump shots may not be used in competition. players are not allowed to break down thier cues to attempt jump shots."
pg 97 definition - regular game cue
"the cue used for the majority of shots in your match."
to me this means you are not permited to use your break cue to jump. the following is an email another apa member received when he asked this question to your national office:
Thank you for contacting the APA National Office. In regards to your
question on changing cues, it is not prohibited to change cues during
the match as long as you are not breaking down. Next, the question on
the time out I would refer to the Official Team Manual page 25, section
11 coaching. The situation described below would be considered coaching
due to it is giving advice as to which ball to shoot.

Please remember to check all local bylaws in regards to these questions.
You may also contact your Local League Office for further clarification.
Thank you for your past, present and future participation within APA
Leagues.

Good Luck and Good Shooting,

April Shepherd
Franchise Consultant
American Poolplayers Association, Inc.

so my question is which answer are you standing by? yes i can switch to my break cue to jump with or no i can't. and why would someone from the national office not know the rules you print in your book?
sincerely,
 
I think the rule book is confusing in several areas. Poorly written. I am not talking about the rules. It is the writing I feel needs to be tightened up.
I would suggest that they give the book to someone who has a mild understanding of the game. Have that person read it and see if everything it perfectly clear.
Someone who knows a lot about the game reads something into the rule if it is not clear. This leaves much to individual interpretation.
 
jrt30004 said:
i can tell you that hear in atlanta if you grab for your break cue to execute a jump and actually take the shot, whether or not you make good contact you just gave up ball in hand.
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I know that rule very well. I was playing in the Singles 8 Ball Regionals in Marietta as a skill level 4 (I'm a good 5,borderline 6 now). My female opponent left me stuck and the only shot I had was a jump shot. I grabbed my jump/break and tried the jump but did not make a good hit. I should note that I did not break down my stick to a jump cue. AFTER I fouled my opponent screamed and hollered "FOUL" even though I failed to make a legal hit. I knew it was ball in hand because I did not make a legal hit but I was not aware it was a foul to use any stick besides your playing cue to jump. In my local league,at the time,it was legal to use your break cue to attempt a jump. My opponent won but still continued to belittle me in front of everyone. I took the high road and walked off but karma came back for her in the form of a loss in the semi-finals and a trip home. I made it to the finals but lost.
What I found odd was the referee told me it wasn't a foul to use a stick other than your playing cue but the owner of the bar,who is a league operator himself,disagreed with the ref. The ref has the final word in the matter though. I guess the rules vary with each league. I agree with the others that say pushouts should be allowed and jump cues should be allowed in matched between higher ranked opponents.
 
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