APA Down East Rant

[APA Operator]

I'm sorry that you feel my two long winded posts describing the culmination of a year's work is petty. We shall just have to agree to disagree. I appreciate the insight you provided earlier in the thread.

I don't know what the proper recourse would be. I don't what I would want done. If you're trying to get me to say that I hope the team that won it gets disqualified, I won't. They played the best over the weekend when it counted, they deserve it. I hope they do well at NTC's and perhaps can bring some positive recognition to our small area.

When my original two posts were created, my initial feeling was disappointment. I couldn't believe as many issues that I thought at the time were cut and dry could have so much room for interpretation. I was absolutely baffled that an old business card could be substituted for proper ID. The sportsmanship issues in the other semi's match would have been handled much differently if I happened to run a league, especially considering how deep in the tournament it was. I don't stand for any kind of sharking, threatening, or anything else related to cheating in the slightest, so there would have been no tolerance for any of that.

Can you explain what you mean by "there would have been no tolerance for any of that"? Would you have kicked someone out? Awarded a ball-in-hand sportsmanship foul? And the guy who threatened violence, would you have kicked him out too?

I'm not just asking to continue the debate. I seriously want to know what you would have done. Anything stronger than a warning and you are affecting the outcome of the match, then someone would be posting here about how unfair it was that you fixed the match for one team or the other.

I wasn't trying to get you to say anything in particular about the guy who didn't have his ID, I really want to know if there's something that can be done that would satisfy you that the issue was resolved. If you're satisfied that he is who he says he is, what else is there?

Here's an interesting thing that actually happened once at NTC. A player was lining up on a shot (maybe the 8-Ball to win the match, I'm not sure) and just as he was about to stroke it his opponent's captain called a time out! Pure shark move there. The issue was brought to a referee, who escalated it to the floor manager. Said floor manager issued a formal sportsmanship warning, then took the shooter to the next table and told him to practice the shot until he was ready to shoot it for real. I thought that was a pretty creative answer!

 

[PoloBob]

Can you explain what you mean by "there would have been no tolerance for any of that"? Would you have kicked someone out? Awarded a ball-in-hand sportsmanship foul? And the guy who threatened violence, would you have kicked him out too?

I'm not just asking to continue the debate. I seriously want to know what you would have done. Anything stronger than a warning and you are affecting the outcome of the match, then someone would be posting here about how unfair it was that you fixed the match for one team or the other.



If I were the LO, I would have issued formal warnings to the appropriate parties, rather than the "hey, be nice to each other" approach that was taken. That very well may have been their version of it, if so, no problems.


I wasn't trying to get you to say anything in particular about the guy who didn't have his ID, I really want to know if there's something that can be done that would satisfy you that the issue was resolved. If you're satisfied that he is who he says he is, what else is there?

With the way the tournament format was described to me, I wasn't aware that you did not have to provide those items, even if asked to furnish them. I honestly don't know what an appropriate response would be. At the time being, I had just assumed that said player would not be able to participate and if that meant re-posting for a match that had just started, so be it. I've never been in that situation prior to this weekend, but that's why there are case books so specifically unique instances as such can be referred back to.

Here's an interesting thing that actually happened once at NTC. A player was lining up on a shot (maybe the 8-Ball to win the match, I'm not sure) and just as he was about to stroke it his opponent's captain called a time out! Pure shark move there. The issue was brought to a referee, who escalated it to the floor manager. Said floor manager issued a formal sportsmanship warning, then took the shooter to the next table and told him to practice the shot until he was ready to shoot it for real. I thought that was a pretty creative answer!

You're right. That is a very unique solution. I'm glad I didn't have to be the one to make that call.