If i join whats the deal? I guess i get rated? How? Then i play others and its handicapped? How does that work?
Fees? I guess thats determined by location?
Thanks.
Fees? I guess thats determined by location?
Thanks.
APA....How does it work?
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Ha, this one's easy...you sandbag for the first year or maybe two, then get bumped up to a sl 7, then get locked in as a 7 for winning anything regional or above, then your team can't play you anymore cause they are pointed out on the nightly limit. You continue to show up just in case, but mostly to drink beer and maybe coach a bit...then you join a BCA league. Pretty simple. The fees are nominal you'll spend more on beer hanging out.
No APA here. We have bar leagues. No fees. Beers are $1.50. All 9 ft tables. No handicaps. Dancing girls in shorts or bikinis.... but i am moving back to the real world next year and as much as i enjoy the funny answers above, i kinda would like a real answer some time in this thread within the next 500 responses here.
Got it. Hopefully you came to the right place. I can't help you as I don't get involved with APA. Sorry for the smart reply. Sometimes I can't help myself when I see an opening. Good luck to you.
Go to poolplayers.com
Click the "find the APA" tab
Enter your Zip Code and it will provide you contact info for local league operator.
Talk to him/her and you can join en existing team or form your own team.
New players start as a 4 skill level I think.
As you play more matches your SL will adjust. Usually 10-20 matches before you level out.
Yearly individual dues around $25 I believe.
Weekly team dues between $25 - $50 (different in each area). 5 - 8 players on a team
Good luck!
Click the "find the APA" tab
Enter your Zip Code and it will provide you contact info for local league operator.
Talk to him/her and you can join en existing team or form your own team.
New players start as a 4 skill level I think.
As you play more matches your SL will adjust. Usually 10-20 matches before you level out.
Yearly individual dues around $25 I believe.
Weekly team dues between $25 - $50 (different in each area). 5 - 8 players on a team
Good luck!
If you are serious about playing, there are better leagues than the APA. BCAPL, TAP are good for better players, USAPL is good also but with the handicap system higher ranked players have a tougher time. Any league will have under-ranked players, when I played TAP I ran into way less of them, and playing straight races made it easier to beat those that are sandbagging vs giving up points per ball.
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APA is fun if you don't treat it as life or death. You will pay the $25 fee to join. You will start off as a SL 4. From there you will either advance or go down based on wins and losses and/or number of innings of your games. If you lose to a higher ranked player, you may not go down. If you beat a lower ranked player in very few innings, you may go up...in other words whatever the LO thinks you should be...
As far as cost, my league, if you play, you pay $9 bucks that night. $7 for the LO and $2 green fee to the host location... Hope this helps
As far as cost, my league, if you play, you pay $9 bucks that night. $7 for the LO and $2 green fee to the host location... Hope this helps
Umm, no. There's actual math involved.
There's nothing wrong with the APA, as a league. People like you, who continually bash anything they don't personally like, are taxing to the positive people here.
To the OP...Having been an APA LO for a few years (25 years ago), I feel that I'm certainly qualified to answer your question. Don Weathersby answered your questions quite well. MOST league players play league because they enjoy it...NOT TO MAKE $$$. If you play league to make money, then you should play in a local money league, as opposed to the nationally sanctiioned leagues like APA, BCAPL, TAP, VNEW, NAPA, USAPL, UPA, and others. As mentioned, go out and find your local LO for Long Island (probably Andy Segal), and get signed up. You can form your own team, with some friends or neighbors, or just get picked up as a single on another team. Within a session or two, you will know if you like APA or not...most people do. There are many people, including several here, who have played APA for 20-30+ years, and had fun the whole time. Others mention problems with league operators or handicap sandbagging (which comes up in every league, not just APA). Sandbagging can only go on if both teams playing allow it to happen. If you have any more in depth questions, you can PM for more info. :thumbup:
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
To the OP...Having been an APA LO for a few years (25 years ago), I feel that I'm certainly qualified to answer your question. Don Weathersby answered your questions quite well. MOST league players play league because they enjoy it...NOT TO MAKE $$$. If you play league to make money, then you should play in a local money league, as opposed to the nationally sanctiioned leagues like APA, BCAPL, TAP, VNEW, NAPA, USAPL, UPA, and others. As mentioned, go out and find your local LO for Long Island (probably Andy Segal), and get signed up. You can form your own team, with some friends or neighbors, or just get picked up as a single on another team. Within a session or two, you will know if you like APA or not...most people do. There are many people, including several here, who have played APA for 20-30+ years, and had fun the whole time. Others mention problems with league operators or handicap sandbagging (which comes up in every league, not just APA). Sandbagging can only go on if both teams playing allow it to happen. If you have any more in depth questions, you can PM for more info. :thumbup:
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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APA is fun if you don't treat it as life or death. You will pay the $25 fee to join. You will start off as a SL 4. From there you will either advance or go down based on wins and losses and/or number of innings of your games. If you lose to a higher ranked player, you may not go down. If you beat a lower ranked player in very few innings, you may go up...in other words whatever the LO thinks you should be...
As far as cost, my league, if you play, you pay $9 bucks that night. $7 for the LO and $2 green fee to the host location... Hope this helps
As far as cost, my league, if you play, you pay $9 bucks that night. $7 for the LO and $2 green fee to the host location... Hope this helps
Got Lucky,
When you join an APA league, you will get a skill level to start with. You would probably have to play a few games with the LO or whomever is taking care of starter ratings. You rating will be affected by how you play during league play. If you break n run, your skill level will go up. If most of your games go multiple innings, your skill level will be lower.
There skill levels go from 4 to 8/9.
APA is a great league for lower to mid rated players. You get to meet local players and maybe even win a trip to Vegas.
All that being said, if you are a good player, you may want to check into the BCAPL. Most BCAPL leagues do not have handicap systems and the competition as a whole is a bit better. JMHO
No matter what league you join, if you love pool it will be fun. Ask around in the city you move to. The pool community is usually a tight knit bunch of players. They can point you in the direction of a local league.
I don't see everything as a unicorn on a rainbow showering Skittles onto the heads of elves that is correct.
Where would you be playing?
Do you have a Fargo rating, by chance?
APA is fun and has the largest amateur championships, especially their World Championships happening in Las Vegas these next weeks.
For 8-ball, they play by and large by the same rules that the professionals played in the 70’s (StarDust) and 80’s (various pro 8-ball tournaments), as the league was started by professionals (Larry Hubbart and Terry Bell) and used a council of pros for the rules (Buddy, Louie, Doc to name a few). They don’t play by World Standardized rules.
They are race format, and you generally play one person. The race depends on handicap. Other leagues often play a one game format, but play several players. The race format is attractive for a lot of people.
Freddie <~~~ enjoys APA
jokrswylde...As much as you are correct in how players may go up or down in skill level, it is not at the whim of the League Operator. Handicap levels are based on a complex algorithm, made up of data from each league match played. It generally takes appx. 20 matches before true handicap levels start to show up.
Scott Lee
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Scott Lee
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Math that can be overridden by the LO, supposedly it has happened several times in our league.
No Fargo rating. I am not sure where I would be playing as I am not sure which state we are moving back to. I do know I am only interested in playing on 9 ft tables. I have no interest in bar tables.
Thanks everyone for your input. I sure am going to miss playing here. In 6 years I have never paid for table time.
Thanks everyone for your input. I sure am going to miss playing here. In 6 years I have never paid for table time.
Wherever you end up, it it likely that any league play will be on 7' tables, as that is the standard. All of the major nationally sanctioned leagues play their national events on 7' tables...sometimes Diamonds (which play just like a 9' Diamond), and sometime Valley tables. There are a few APA leagues played on 9' tables, and luckily for you, most of them are in the NY region!
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com